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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    FFS. Compelling evidence that pass went back out of hands. Why are SA TMOs always so bent?

    Ennor is a star in the making IMHO.

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    There’s even a frigging demo video on world rugby website showing a pass usually goes forward even though passed backward.

    Don’t think it matters in the grand scheme of things but that TMO should be stood down.

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    I thought the new TMO protocols were put in place to stop the TMO calling the shots?
    He said “I want you to check” to the ref then proceeded to tell him what to do.

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    Interesting, I just watched the highlights put up by SA and they didn't seem to show any disallowed try.

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    Im getting a little bit sick of these moral victories.

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  • SiamS Offline
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    Staggering that a WC ref official could misinterpret a pass like that.

    His farken employer made a video showing why you can't always trust the lines marked on the field ffs.

    That's not good enough officiating, needs to be fixed

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    The video with the disallowed try is in this article.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/112830256/super-rugby-crusaders-held-to-draw-by-stormers-after-lastditch-penalty-goal

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Thank Fu-k The Crusaders are out of SA now quite fortunate to have secured a Bonus point win and a Draw due to the SA officials blatant Hometown decisions not just Jonker but Van der Westhuizen who pinged the Crusaders 4 times for being offside and apparently the Stormers were never offside. And he over ruled Berry on a collapsed maul getting the Stormers a penalty.
    Even the last penalty by Berry was dubious.
    The Penalty count against The Highlanders in the game before with SA officials was horrendous .
    I Pity The Hurricanes still having to play 2 games there and the Landers 1 more.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Just saw the highlights of this game. If Super Rugby is to be taken seriously as a competition they need to reintroduce neutral refs (including the TMO).

    Pass was backwards out of the hands, so not a forward pass.

    Crusaders robbed IMO.

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    @Kirwan said in Stormers v Crusaders:

    Just saw the highlights of this game. If Super Rugby is to be taken seriously as a competition they need to reintroduce neutral refs (including the TMO).

    Pass was backwards out of the hands, so not a forward pass.

    Crusaders robbed IMO.

    No comment

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    Clearly not a forward pass, but we weren’t great anyway and should have won the game before that. After showing amazing form at the start of the season we haven’t looked great since the loss to the tahs.

    Scott Barrett totally dominated physically and at set piece by etzebeth, he’s never going to be big enough to be a dominant international lock.

    We missed Reads presence from last week, Whetu Douglas and Romano showed good physicality when they came on. I think Douglas has surpassed Taufua as our best 6.

    Backline looked way better with ennor on instead of Crotty (who looked slow). Ennor is going to be a great player, he’s improved so much this year.

    Ollie Jager is a weakling.

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    #42

    If a Stormer threw that pass and it wasn't called forward there would be a meltdown on here. It went two metres forward.

    That last high tackle he hit him on the chin.

    The real crime was why the hell didn't the Crusaders take the 3 right on halftime. Turning down 3 and going for a lineout drive after the hooter was super dumb and high risk. Same error the Blues made last week.

    Bloody good crowd. A real atmosphere.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Very poor call from the TMO - no big deal in the greater scheme of Super rugby 2019, but in a World Cup knock out match, worse than Wayne Barnes.

    It's somewhat concerning how much the Crusaders have struggled with the physicality of the Jaapies in the last few weeks, given the number of All Blacks in our pack. That Peter Steph du Toit is a bloody good blindside.

    I guess the scrum was always going to be a worry with three of our top four props out. Bower struggled to keep it up - Allan and Jager are currently no better than NPC props and Jager possibly only a bench prop at that level. After three years in the squad, he should be able to step up to replace Owen Franks, but he's clearly not ready for that.

    First 20 minutes were terrible from the Crusaders - full of forced and unforced errors. Looked like they'd found some form through the middle stages and were about to run away with it. Stormers hung in there, but in the last 10 minutes we should have scored twice (did of course score once) as we started opening them up a bit.

    No Crusaders stand out as having great games - Bridge, Ennor and Whitelock probably the best.

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    I think Jonker should be forced to watch this video a hundred times this week.

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    @KiwiMurph feels like we have entered the Twilight Zone and gong back a dozen or so years with that discussion...

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @Stargazer Jonker does not know or understand the Law that makes a forward pass a forward pass if anyone thinks the Ennor pass to Reece was forward you are a complete idiot and have know idea what constitutes a Forward pass.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Chris To be fair, one of the reasons people become rugby referees is because it's not rocket science.

    "Ground control to Marius, you've missed your re-entry window by 40,000 kilometres!"

    Marius to Ground control, "I don't understand. I've been very keffle with my kalkulation".

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    @KiwiMurph said in Stormers v Crusaders:

    If a Stormer threw that pass and it wasn't called forward there would be a meltdown on here. It went two metres forward.

    That last high tackle he hit him on the chin.

    The real crime was why the hell didn't the Crusaders take the 3 right on halftime. Turning down 3 and going for a lineout drive after the hooter was super dumb and high risk. Same error the Blues made last week.

    Bloody good crowd. A real atmosphere.

    You'd hope there wasn't.

    It was clearly back relative to the passer.

    It's not rocket science, but it is physics.

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    @KiwiMurph Now now don't ruin the mood, it's the cool thing to do to blame the officials on this forum. I thought the pass was ok but shit happens, move on and still, the Crusaders had plenty of time to wrap the game up regardless of that call.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @African-Monkey is a difference between blaming an official and calling them out when they are blatantly wrong, which some people dont think we should do...people can abuse players for playing rubbish, but not officials.

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