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God that's shit. What is that? The flag for a b&b in the mountains? -
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<p>I still kind of like it.</p>
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<p>Prefer the black flag with a silver fern on it, which they would replace the half/half version on the ballot with that.</p>
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<p>start a page on FB, and it shall be so! </p> -
<p>Radio NZ did a totally unscientific street poll this morning. In other words something no more or less accurate than all the BS statements coming out on behalf of the pro- engineering logo.</p>
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<p>A couple of those asked didn't even know we were looking at changing the flag. Of the rest prob 60% thought the whole process was a waste of money and we should keep the current flag.</p>
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<p>No one liked Red Peak. Not one - so there you go Winger NZ has spoken! :whistle:</p> -
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<p>I still kind of like it.</p>
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<p>Prefer the black flag with a silver fern on it, wish they would replace the half/half version on the ballot with that.</p>
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<p>Agree. I would have voted to change to either Red Peak or a good black and white fern if one or the other had won the first vote.</p>
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<p>Key has come out of this looking good (from the UK from what I have seen) and Little very poorly. In some ways Red Peak seems to has saved this whole process.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/72361005/john-key-would-vote-red-peak-over-status-quo'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/72361005/john-key-would-vote-red-peak-over-status-quo</a><br>
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<p>Red Peak is across the line and if it came down to a choice between that and the current flag - Prime Minister John Key says he'd back Red Peak.</p>
<p>Parliament resumed urgent debate on Thursday morning to get legislation through to introduce the controversial outsider to the voting paper.</p>
<p>All parties, apart from NZ First, voted in favour of making Red Peak a fifth flag option in the upcoming flag referendum.</p>
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<p>Radio NZ did a totally unscientific street poll this morning. In other words something no more or less accurate than all the BS statements coming out on behalf of the pro- engineering logo.</p>
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<p>A couple of those asked didn't even know we were looking at changing the flag. Of the rest prob 60% thought the whole process was a waste of money and we should keep the current flag.</p>
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<p>No one liked Red Peak. Not one - so there you go Winger NZ has spoken! :whistle:</p>
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<p>Shame. That's it then :yes:</p> -
<p>I dont think it has saved the process, I think it has made plenty think it is a farce now! </p>
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<p>What a great flag</p>
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<p><img src="http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news/48536/eight_col_redpeak.jpg?1443046658" alt="eight_col_redpeak.jpg?1443046658"></p>
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<p>Red Flag's designer has said the flag uses the shape of traditional weaving patterns, and "suggests a landscape of alpine ranges, red earth, and black sky", while referencing the Maori creation myth of Ranginui and Papatuanuku, also known as Rangi and Papa.</p>
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<p>my avatar represents the circle of life. Green for growth with a window into the eyes of the world - already the pomelo is decaying yet as the circle of life turns so will the pomelo seeds germinate again - especially if fed bullshit</p>
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<p>Plus its got a nice liddle puddy tat</p> -
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<p>my avatar represents the circle of life. Green for growth with a window into the eyes of the world - already the pomelo is decaying yet as the circle of life turns so will the pomelo seeds germinate again - especially if fed bullshit</p>
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<p>Plus its got a nice liddle puddy tat</p>
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<p>I can see it very clearly now DM (edit or SOOE)</p> -
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<p>I dont think it has saved the process, I think it has made plenty think it is a farce now! </p>
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<p>I guess it's made some (myself and a few others I know) more interested to vote in the referendum. The engineering logo makes a really a sh*t flag imo. </p> -
<p>Certainly has people talking, but everyone is over it, I saw a poll on Facebook...not all publicity is good</p>
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<p>What a great flag</p>
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<p><img src="http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news/48536/eight_col_redpeak.jpg?1443046658" alt="eight_col_redpeak.jpg?1443046658"></p>
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<p>Red Flag's designer has said the flag uses the shape of traditional weaving patterns, and "suggests a landscape of alpine ranges, red earth, and black sky", while referencing the Maori creation myth of Ranginui and Papatuanuku, also known as Rangi and Papa.</p>
<p>It also highlights New Zealand's position near the international dateline, which makes it one of the "first to hold the light of new day", he said.</p>
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<p>If only the flag came close to matching the imagery it is trying to evoke...</p> -
<p>I hate red peak. It's shit bland and boring.</p>
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<p>I hate red peak. It's shit bland and boring.</p>
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<p>So whats you preference<br><img src="http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03424/flags_3424783b.jpg" alt="flags_3424783b.jpg"></p>
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<p><img src="http://d22r54gnmuhwmk.cloudfront.net/photos/7/rd/ux/vYrDuXIxyheNbSd-1600x900-noPad.jpg" alt="vYrDuXIxyheNbSd-1600x900-noPad.jpg"></p> -
<p>black and blue Lockwood.</p>
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<p>easy.</p>
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<p>far and away the best option.</p>
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<p>I've given reasons previously.</p>
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<p>red peak is bland and completely non descript</p> -
<p>Speaking as an outsider, and realising that I have no relevance in this at all, what I will say is that all the new options look to be compromises (whoever it was that posted the Homer Car earlier in the thread was spot on). There is nothing there to me there shouts out This Is New Zealand. I include Red Peak in this. The old saying that if a committee sat dow to design a horse you'd end up with a camel springs to mind.</p>
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<p>From what I've read on this thread (and I have to admit, all my research is from this thread), the process does seem a little arse about face and is likely to result in maintaining the status quo whilst costing a shed load of money.</p>
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<p>Opportunity. Wasted.</p> -
<p>Thanks for your last post Winger.</p>
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<p>Seriously, looking at tit has firmed up my position.</p>
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<p>Not trying to be clever - I like red peak the least of all 5.</p>
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<p>and surprisingly I now think I would take any of the other 4 (with all their many faults) over the current flag.</p>
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<p>So what about a name change then eh?</p>
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<p>Aotearoa over a misspelt dutch province </p> -
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<p>Thanks for your last post Winger.</p>
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<p>Seriously, looking at tit has firmed up my position.</p>
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<p>Not trying to be clever - I like red peak the least of all 5.</p>
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<p>and surprisingly I now think I would take any of the other 4 (with all their many faults) over the current flag.</p>
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<p>So what about a name change then eh?</p>
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<p><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong>Aotearoa over a misspelt dutch province </strong></span></p>
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<p> If NZ ever votes on this I would vote for Aotearoa</p>
