RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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@cgrant I agree Mounga didn’t have a good game. BB, while exceptional at times at full back does not have the greatest kick on him or it deserted him last night. Moving forward Harvilli seems pretty solid at FB and maybe BB back to 1st five. Of course we can play our typical game against any other team with Bounga, except England, and probably win.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Can we get a welfare check on @mariner4life?
Haven't watched the game. Was at a great party. Only just woke up.
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@mariner4life said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Can we get a welfare check on @mariner4life?
Haven't watched the game.
Don't.
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@SammyC said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
No concerns with that loss. We were outplayed and Eddie Jones did his thing.
Never got the criticism of Itoje because he’s played like this before. Well done that man.
Look forward to seeing the ABs one more time against the Boks. 😎
The criticism of Itoje is NZ rugby fan arrogance at its best.
I think it has been deserved previously.
... perhaps not now ...
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Far from an excuse because you have to back up week after week,
But I do think beating Ireland in the manner we did , when they had become our recent bogey team ,possibly had Us overall feeling A little too comfortable with things .
If there was a return game against England next week , things might be different , but world cups don’t work like that .
Emphasis on not an excuse, We should know better , but part of the failure
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@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@SammyC said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
No concerns with that loss. We were outplayed and Eddie Jones did his thing.
Never got the criticism of Itoje because he’s played like this before. Well done that man.
Look forward to seeing the ABs one more time against the Boks. 😎
The criticism of Itoje is NZ rugby fan arrogance at its best.
I think it has been deserved previously.
... perhaps not now ...
Itoje has been on par with Retallick for the past three seasons.
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Great English performance, congratulations to the Poms. Our forwards were smashed and spat out.
Some thoughts.
One thing I did notice was how much bigger or built up the English forwards seemed to be. In the ABs case, is it too much speed work and not enough weights? Mmmm.....
It hurts but really, when you are beaten so comprehensively, sometimes you just need to sit back and applaud. They played great rugby and as a rugby fan, it was good to see a positively-oriented team win.
The backs can't do anything unless the forwards are doing their jobs.
Ironic that Ireland showed the blueprint to beat the ABs. We've had an obvious soft underbelly for a while lads. Writing was on the wall. Eddie was smacking his lips!
Shag. Thanks for the memories, you have been fantastic. Now, we need a new coaching line up. Said it then and I'll say it now, we needed one after the Lion's series. Maybe no candidates were available at that time. We need another "dream team". Tony Brown as attack coach please and definitely another forwards coach. Cron might be a scrum guru but he has to take some of the blame for a poor tight five recently.
And lastly, the silver lining. Can't wait for next year, a new look ABs and a new direction. Also, it will be good to shut up some of the arrogant kiwi supporters I have encountered recently. Cultural cringe! Wish some people would just stay at home. -
@canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
From our seats it was clear from the start that England challenged us up front and we were found wanting. We never looked like winning, in fact the score flattered us. The backs were neutered as a result of the forwards' inability to get parity
This.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack Cron, as you say "might be a scrum guru" but as he is not part of the selection panel does he have to take some of the blame for a poor tight five? He can only work with who the selectors give him and if who they give him are not up to it in the first place there is not much he can do about it.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack yes I am excited about the new look as well. We have to find forwards who will win contact and create momentum. The balance between strength and size for set piece and mobility for phase play. We lacked the latter.
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@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Godder said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Some of the ABs have cuts on their faces - is that likely to be dodgy play in the rucks or just bad luck?
Because rugby
Fair enough.
