RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales
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@Machpants said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Could have been so much worse
But frustratingly so much betterI think, realistically, not much. It's weird, Wales have a real block Vs ABs. In Gatland's time only once have Wales Benn within ten. I think this result is pretty much part for the course, response when Wales were a bit bashed up and a day less rest
Yep we do.
We put ourselves in great positions and then consistently blow it. Especially against the ABs.
It was also a nod to last weekend - for both teams.
If we'd tried to play rugby last week rather thsn defend and live off SA mistakes we would have been watching this match.
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@sparky said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
ITV finally showing the Hansen interview.
Loved that
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@MajorRage said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Very similar to the 03 Bronze game.
This whole tournament for us has eerie simliarities to 03.
Beat the jaapies
Ambushed by an Eddie Jones team
Dumped the 3/4 playoff oppositionWhich means what...we lose to France in the next one and win the next two?
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@Unite said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@MajorRage said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Very similar to the 03 Bronze game.
This whole tournament for us has eerie simliarities to 03.
Beat the jaapies
Ambushed by an Eddie Jones team
Dumped the 3/4 playoff oppositionWhich means what...we lose to France in the next one and win the next two?
Oh hell no!!! (to losing to the Frogs)
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Next World Cup will be more challenging.
Our Junior rugby teams have been beaten up recent years by sides with big forward packs. Development of our tight 5 depth and loose forwards that can win contact will be our challenge. We always have great footballers but size matters as the game gets tighter and defence dominates.
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Man NZers have grown up over the years. Not hard to imagine Hansen being booed etc while back. Ultimately his last 2 years were below par but overall a great coach. Fantastic selector too, very few dud squad selections even if last weeks 23 was an error.
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this thread is a bit of a pisser eh.
ben smith is terrible, too old! (watch it again, sbw didn't drift on that welsh try which meant bender was late moving out)
ben smith is awesome!
ben smith is awesome!
rieko is shit.
rieko would be awesome too if things went his way.
nah he wouldn't
yeah he would
nah he wouldn't
ben smith is awesome!if you look at it as a hindsight trial, then it's pretty clear ben smith should have been there, and that cane should have started. a decent argument for crotty on the bench or for ALB - and, surprisingly, frizzell and coltman might have been the next best tonight.
the funny thing about the bench is that i don't give a shit if jordie and sbw come on and do some flash shit while we're already up so we win by more. is that impact? so fucking what. i give a shit if we're losing and we can bring on guys who fix it and don't try to be the hero. that great after the whistle win against the potatoes a few years back was all guys doing their jobs well and showing error-free composure, not flash harrys trying to win the game in one play.
the other thing of note is that aaron smith is the best halfback i've ever seen when the forwards have parity. his passing is just an absolute fucking treat. if we can't beat a rush defence with his bullets, imagine trying to do it with another halfback.
fucken 3rd. fuck.
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Sooo....first off - Barnes should never ref the AB's in knock outs. Crucial moments appear and he goes out of his way to ignore the call that should be made and instead rule against the AB's. I don't see how that Wales try wasn't obstruction and I don't see how the Ioane knock on was clear and obvious.
Ioane...is probably having the worst "luck" for a winger you'll ever see - but I don't think he can be blameless in that department...the harder you work the luckier you get? His drop has been really weird, but he's just not performing better than anyone you could think of to put on the wing.
Watching our defence tonight...just WTF eh. Who's in charge? I'd probably go so far as to call it arrogant - we ignore the numbers game, I take it assuming that if we're outnumbered it doesn't matter because we're so good we'll stop the oppo and then they'll swing it back the other way where we'll out number them and get a turnover? It's annoying, because that combined with not being so passive are easy fixes.
Shag, you've been an outright legend, thanks for the memories, enjoy the quieter life.
Nice one Reado, way to bow out putting in a tough captains performance, even pulling out the old shoulder once or twice. Enjoy the yen!
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@Bones said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
@reprobate you forgot to add...Rieko should move to centre, he'd be good. Based on nothing of course, but he's ordinary on the wing right now so let's ditch our good midfielders anyway.
now i'm no rieko hater, but centre? now that's remarkable. goodhue was great for the crusaders all year, hasn't put a foot wrong for the ABs, come back strongly from injury, best on our side of the park in the semi loss in my eyes.
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@kev said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:
Thought BBBR was lucky to get man of match. Sam Cane for me. Man he hits hard.
From the first breakdown - he drove some poor Wales player back about 3m.
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