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    @nzzp as much as I rate Robertson, I think his problem would appear to be the team he is supposedly building (or has access to) initially he was looking to build his team with Brown, but that option is gone, making the team Fozzie seems to be assembling preferrable.

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    Another day, more speculation.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12287753&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nzh_fb

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    Bidwell sure is keen on burning whatever rickety bridge he may already be standing on regarding Foster.

    There has always been a theme of attacking the Hansen set up from the Ferald, led by Ratpoo.

    They claim it is because unless you sucked up you were on the outside when the counterclaim is that if you are going to write shitty clickbait while ignoring facts then you won't be taken seriously.

    This is one massive fuck off to Foster and if he gets the job you can be sure that Bidwell won't be welcome at Press Conferences.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288351

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    Looks like his Press Pass for free admittance to matches under the auspices of the NZRFU might be in jeopardy. Good on him though as he is echoing the thoughts of, well who knows how many but certainly mine anyway.

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    @Higgins said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Looks like his Press Pass for free admittance to matches under the auspices of the NZRFU might be in jeopardy. Good on him though as he is echoing the thoughts of, well who knows how many but certainly mine anyway.

    He (and others) may not prefer to see Foster in the job but he has no foundation to start calling it a sham.
    If things could/should have been done differently then by all means criticise the process (if you actually have the facts and aren't guessing), but to declare that there is a cartel operating and no thought of anyone except Foster is unfounded.

    He is echo-ing the thoughts of many but that doesn't give those thoughts validity.

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    Poison chalice

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12288195&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utmc_campaign=nzh_fb

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    Inclined to agree with these quotes from Ben Kay

    **Foster is the establishment figure. He would provide continuity within the All Blacks set-up, but how closely tied is he to the previous regime? Can he evolve? How much do New Zealand need to start again?" Kay wrote.

    All the Crusaders people love Scott Robertson but he does things slightly differently. He brands each season differently; one season it could be boxing; another season it could be NFL. One year he built his narrative around Melbourne Storm, the NRL team, and brought players in to speak to the squad. He is a very creative coach and would be more of a maverick appointment."**

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    @taniwharugby What the fuck would he know?

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    @antipodean said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @taniwharugby What the fuck would he know?

    well, he seems like an expert on being average

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    Take this bit for example.

    "The squad Ferguson left behind at Old Trafford was nowhere near as strong as it had been and things began to spiral as successive managers tried and failed to rebuild the team. The same challenge awaits Hansen's successor. New Zealand are still a fine team but they are not as strong as they were four years ago."

    No shit Sherlock, but which assistant coach was involved while they still managed a win percentage of ~85% ? You lose 700 caps of experience and the new guys are all more experienced now than they were in 2016.

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    Kiwi coach Joe Schmidt has said he's unsure over whether or not he'll return to rugby, having vacated his long held Ireland post after this year's World Cup in Japan.
    
    However, promoting his new book Ordinary Joe, Schmidt hinted that his time as a rugby coach could now be done.
    
    "I'm not sure I'll ever go back to coaching," the Kiwi told the Daily Telegraph.
    
    "I just don't know. I want to give myself a bit of distance. I'm emotionally attached. I do take it home with me.
    
    "But it's not like coaching in football where you can potentially accumulate enough to retire permanently. I'll have to go back to work at some stage. I'm just not sure what that will look like."
    
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    Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

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    @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

    Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

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    @Snowy said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @mariner4life said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Gee, there's a book I'll be dashing out to buy...

    Might be popular in Ireland (maybe, a bit, well a little, sort of).

    Audio version?

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    Heard him interviewed on a Irish podcast, where he joined them to push his book release. Thought it was interesting that in his first teaching job (Palmy Boys, I think) he requested to coach the basketball team but the boss told him to take the rugby team... and he never looked back.

    The first couple of chapters are autobiographical but from there after it is more of a diary.

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    @mariner4life Coles Notes?

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    @Wurzel He actually did coach bball. My team in fact. I was in 3rd form, 1990, he knew nothing about the game. He didn't let a look in at Senior A level, we had a VERY good coach there, I'd struggle to believe he ever got offered that role.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/117838943/why-tony-brown-put-japan-before-the-all-blacks

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    The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

    That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

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    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    The whole timeline of this process has seemed pretty long winded (given we have known for many months it was coming up) but by the same token, I expect many top jobs have a long process to find the best candidate.

    That said, if the right candidate comes along early, you should still be able to change things to ensure you get the best person

    It would seem JJ, among others, did not get the impression he had a strong chance. He's still young and will have another chance. Back to collecting the yen

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