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@Smudge said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
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@Virgil said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
GLOBAL PRAISE FOR ARDERN !!
Actually some sanctimonious Aussies on twitter taking cheap shots at their pm
I assume her crew picks out the person for her to hug and makes sure a Camera is positioned perfectly to get the right angle, Cindy then closes her eyes looks sad...
Who was it that posted something from her press sec that basically said she would only do interviews when bad shit happens?
A Christchurch journo said that
Chris Lynch isn't exactly a journo.
seems a pretty common theme in most of our media outlets these days
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About time. Credit at all time low it would be criminal not to spend some of the forecast surpluses on infrastructure.
Feb is the important date when they announce what it's going on.
Bridges will do his now oh too familiar whingefest about it though. He's obviously decided that the key to being taken seriously is to be strident about everything. He just reminds me of an annoyingly yappy little dog
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
About time. Credit at all time low it would be criminal not to spend some of the forecast surpluses on infrastructure.
Feb is the important date when they announce what it's going on.
Bridges will do his now oh too familiar whingefest about it though. He's obviously decided that the key to being taken seriously is to be strident about everything. He just reminds me of an annoyingly yappy little dog
That was an impressive contortion to somehow turn a govt announcement onto a whinge about the National party leader
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I shall wait with interest to see what this Labour govt does with a massive roading project spend. NZTA under National was such a clusterfuck, and Bridges (Mr photo op) was a TERRIBLE transport minister to deal with. If they can sort out the rot at the Transport Agency, they have a chance at getting shit done. But holy shit there are a lot aboard that gravy train.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback @dogmeat
My problem with Bridges is that he seems to be wanting to be in power for being in power's sake, as opposed to wanting to run the country because they have the best ideas, best systems and are best equipped to do so.
I see this in Aus too. It's about winning the election rather than selling why you should win.
Jackie's going to win this coz she hugs people. Bridges gunna lose because he's not giving reasons to vote for him.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback @dogmeat
My problem with Bridges is that he seems to be wanting to be in power for being in power's sake, as opposed to wanting to run the country because they have the best ideas, best systems and are best equipped to do so.
I see this in Aus too. It's about winning the election rather than selling why you should win.
Jackie's going to win this coz she hugs people. Bridges gunna lose because he's not giving reasons to vote for him.
Mate labour were so desperate to be in power they let Winston screw them while pretending he actually was prepared to go with national. He knew he could walk all over the Jassiah and he has .
Theres not much talent in labour and they've struggled to actually achieve anything of note in the past two years apart from creating the impression theres a lot of creeps in the party that like to prey on young volunteers and they'll cover it up and ignore the victims.
I don't hold much hope of this money being spent effectively considering they spent $300 million on the regional development fund [aka the NZ first bribe] for 616 jobs .Thats $484000 a job and we are somehow to expect they'll do better with more money?Some economists appear to agree that these cretins will find a way to fuck this up, I'd put money on the party that bought us kiwibuild making a hash of this too.
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@Tim nope but "shovel ready" means roads rather than PT.
At a guess I would say Northern Tauranga expressway, Penlink, Whangarei - Ruakaka, 3rd main rail Wiri - Papakura, Skypath, something that allows them to say they're getting on with Light Rail in Akl and a whole host of stuff under the safety heading hopefully a lot of 2-1 conversions. Maybe some funding for deviations needed for a proper Akl - Ham rail service. But who knows. How much do they have to buy Winnie?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback wasn't wrong though - guys a fucking massive liability for National as @booboo and @mokey point out.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@jegga am not disagreeing.
But my point stands.
Jacinda will retain enough popularity, whilst Bridges is not likable enough. Bridges has to present as an effective Prime Minister as you're not choosing to vote for him as a person.
Yeah I agree. That's why I really wanted Bill to be PM - he never came across as someone that particularly wanted power for the sake of it. Would have been a fantastic PM IMO, it's a real shame the way it panned out. Went from having a strong PM with a stable government to the unholy alliance of NZ First and Greens having too much bloody influence on things coupled with a party with no leadership whatsoever taking the reigns.
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@No-Quarter said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@jegga am not disagreeing.
But my point stands.
Jacinda will retain enough popularity, whilst Bridges is not likable enough. Bridges has to present as an effective Prime Minister as you're not choosing to vote for him as a person.
Yeah I agree. That's why I really wanted Bill to be PM - he never came across as someone that particularly wanted power for the sake of it. Would have been a fantastic PM IMO, it's a real shame the way it panned out. Went from having a strong PM with a stable government to the unholy alliance of NZ First and Greens having too much bloody influence on things coupled with a party with no leadership whatsoever taking the reigns.
Was reflecting on Bill when typing those posts.
If he couldn't sell the message to vote for the best credentialed candidate over the shiny superficial one then Bridges has no hope.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@No-Quarter said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@jegga am not disagreeing.
But my point stands.
Jacinda will retain enough popularity, whilst Bridges is not likable enough. Bridges has to present as an effective Prime Minister as you're not choosing to vote for him as a person.
Yeah I agree. That's why I really wanted Bill to be PM - he never came across as someone that particularly wanted power for the sake of it. Would have been a fantastic PM IMO, it's a real shame the way it panned out. Went from having a strong PM with a stable government to the unholy alliance of NZ First and Greens having too much bloody influence on things coupled with a party with no leadership whatsoever taking the reigns.
Was reflecting on Bill when typing those posts.
If he couldn't sell the message to vote for the best credentialed candidate over the whiney superficial one then Bridges has no hope.
He lost because people value image and sound bites over real substance
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@No-Quarter said it before English was a very impressive politician. Actually a lot warmer and mo0re engaging than he came over on TV.
Key was more personable and would always have a queue of people waiting to have a selfie with him but English exuded more competence.
Key was a leader, English was a Manager. Key was the off the cuff broad statements guy Bill was the detail nerd. Why as a team they were so powerful. They complemented each other so well. Not to say JK wasn't a very smart guy as he clearly was but as a politician that wasn't necessarily his role.
We were actually really well served by very competent leadership for nearly two decades with Clark/Cullen and then Key/English. It's why the current mob are such a stark contrast.
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@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@No-Quarter said in NZ Politics:
@booboo said in NZ Politics:
@jegga am not disagreeing.
But my point stands.
Jacinda will retain enough popularity, whilst Bridges is not likable enough. Bridges has to present as an effective Prime Minister as you're not choosing to vote for him as a person.
Yeah I agree. That's why I really wanted Bill to be PM - he never came across as someone that particularly wanted power for the sake of it. Would have been a fantastic PM IMO, it's a real shame the way it panned out. Went from having a strong PM with a stable government to the unholy alliance of NZ First and Greens having too much bloody influence on things coupled with a party with no leadership whatsoever taking the reigns.
Was reflecting on Bill when typing those posts.
If he couldn't sell the message to vote for the best credentialed candidate over the shiny superficial one then Bridges has no hope.
That should have been "shiny" but autocorrected to "whiney".
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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
This sort of thing worked well for UK Labour
Hopefully they continue then!!!
Shitlebrity endorsements weren’t much help either
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I’d put money on Latta standing for labour too . He’s denying it now but there’ll be some attention whoring self aggrandising video in his twitter feed in the not too distant future about wanting to help make NZ a better place for everyone and not just for the wealthy .
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