BOP Eruption?
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@Donsteppa firstly, who is Patrick Gower? Is he just a journo?
Secondly, has he changed his opinion at all?
And thirdly, @Virgil I can't see how the conditions that killed 15 people would have been less dangerous immediately after the event than as the week progressed. As @Donsteppa pointed out grief, anger and shock combined with a lack of understanding meant people making statements in misplaced hope.
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@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
That 20 minutes thing from the pilot is a bit daft to me. He wanted to take his giant fan over fields of volcanic ash to ingest into a turbine engine. They really don't play nicely together.
Re volcanic ash. The ash falls from Ruapehu in the late 90s were quite interesting. It looked soft and powdery like talcum powder, but it was as harsh and hard as broken glass. Horrible stuff. Can imagine what it would do to your engine.
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@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
That 20 minutes thing from the pilot is a bit daft to me. He wanted to take his giant fan over fields of volcanic ash to ingest into a turbine engine. They really don't play nicely together.
Re volcanic ash. The ash falls from Ruapehu in the late 90s were quite interesting. It looked soft and powdery like talcum powder, but it was as harsh and hard as broken glass. Horribke stuff. Can imagine what it would do to your engine.
Yeah. I was flying turbo props in NZ at the time (was 95 from memory). Pretty much had a couple of weeks off. It basically gets melted into rock on the inside of the engine which increases the internal temp due to lack of airflow and you end up with a meltdown. Did a lot of training over the years to avoid it / get out of it. It's actually quite common and we stayed well clear of it. Creates spectacular St Elmo's fire on the windscreen in the sim. Lucky enough not have seen it for real.
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@NTA said in BOP Eruption?:
That Gower bloke's opinion is secondary to his immensely punchable face
I was stuck in traffic one day and looked out the window and saw that Uber cuck standing next to my Ute waiting to cross the road . Can confirm he has a face you’d struggle to tire of punching .
Those tweets are pretty typical of fuckwit Internet experts . There were similar ones doing the rounds after Pike river by people who’d never been near a mine insisting that after an explosion was the safest time to re-enter a mine .
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@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
That 20 minutes thing from the pilot is a bit daft to me. He wanted to take his giant fan over fields of volcanic ash to ingest into a turbine engine. They really don't play nicely together.
Re volcanic ash. The ash falls from Ruapehu in the late 90s were quite interesting. It looked soft and powdery like talcum powder, but it was as harsh and hard as broken glass. Horrible stuff. Can imagine what it would do to your engine.
We drove through it in 1995 and it made the paint job on the truck look pretty shit . If it does that to paint I’d hate to think what it does to lungs .
But you know, pretty basic 20 minute job apparently.
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The internet is awesome, until tools like Gower use it to spread stupidity.
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@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
That 20 minutes thing from the pilot is a bit daft to me. He wanted to take his giant fan over fields of volcanic ash to ingest into a turbine engine. They really don't play nicely together.
Re volcanic ash. The ash falls from Ruapehu in the late 90s were quite interesting. It looked soft and powdery like talcum powder, but it was as harsh and hard as broken glass. Horrible stuff. Can imagine what it would do to your engine.
Even worse if it gets in your eyes.
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@antipodean said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
That 20 minutes thing from the pilot is a bit daft to me. He wanted to take his giant fan over fields of volcanic ash to ingest into a turbine engine. They really don't play nicely together.
Re volcanic ash. The ash falls from Ruapehu in the late 90s were quite interesting. It looked soft and powdery like talcum powder, but it was as harsh and hard as broken glass. Horrible stuff. Can imagine what it would do to your engine.
Even worse if it gets in your eyes.
Are you certain of that ? If it was I’m sure a recognised expert like a helicopter pilot or Paddy Gower would have mentioned it.
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@jegga said in BOP Eruption?:
@antipodean said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@Snowy said in BOP Eruption?:
That 20 minutes thing from the pilot is a bit daft to me. He wanted to take his giant fan over fields of volcanic ash to ingest into a turbine engine. They really don't play nicely together.
Re volcanic ash. The ash falls from Ruapehu in the late 90s were quite interesting. It looked soft and powdery like talcum powder, but it was as harsh and hard as broken glass. Horrible stuff. Can imagine what it would do to your engine.
Even worse if it gets in your eyes.
Are you certain of that ? If it was I’m sure a recognised expert like a helicopter pilot or Paddy Gower would have mentioned it.
Obviously doesn't fuck with helicopter engines though....
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You have to love a good whinger. Funny how he didn't want to put his name to his comments. Unlike the lady who was very complimentary of the way the ship's staff handled the tragedy
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This....
and this.....
https://www.cruiselawnews.com/services/
Jim focuses his maritime law practice on representing cruise passengers and crew members in cases against cruise lines such as Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Celebrity, Disney, Holland America Line, Princess and Norwegian Cruise Line among others.
The firm handles cases on a “contingency” basis – meaning that you do not send us a retainer and we do not bill you for our fees or expenses.
We advance all costs and are reimbursed for our time and costs only if we are successful in reaching a settlement or we win the case for you.
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@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@jegga said in BOP Eruption?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:
Well after the passing of the euthanasia law maybe it wont be an issue, just get the pilot to say he wants euthanasia ... death by volcano.
Then if he does make it back he can change his mind.Terrible bloody movie
What is this word "versus" ... ?
Joe verses the Volcano
Revertere ad ludum, stultus. Plebes commictilis sunt.
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@canefan said in BOP Eruption?:
You have to love a good whinger. Funny how he didn't want to put his name to his comments. Unlike the lady who was very complimentary of the way the ship's staff handled the tragedy
Keeps coming to mind when I read that headline:
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@JC said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@jegga said in BOP Eruption?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:
Well after the passing of the euthanasia law maybe it wont be an issue, just get the pilot to say he wants euthanasia ... death by volcano.
Then if he does make it back he can change his mind.Terrible bloody movie
What is this word "versus" ... ?
Joe verses the Volcano
Revertere ad ludum, stultus. Plebes commictilis sunt.
So google translate gives me:
"Return to the game, stupid. VILE the commons"
Assuming you're saying "pull your head in dickhead"?
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@Chris-B said in BOP Eruption?:
This....
From the article:
Royal Caribbean has removed the White Island/Whakaari shore excursion page from its website but a cached version shows that it did not include any warnings about potential hazards on what it dubbed "one of the most active volcanoes in the world".How much more warning do you require?
and this.....
https://www.cruiselawnews.com/services/
Jim focuses his maritime law practice on representing cruise passengers and crew members in cases against cruise lines such as Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Celebrity, Disney, Holland America Line, Princess and Norwegian Cruise Line among others.
The firm handles cases on a “contingency” basis – meaning that you do not send us a retainer and we do not bill you for our fees or expenses.
We advance all costs and are reimbursed for our time and costs only if we are successful in reaching a settlement or we win the case for you.
Ambulance chasers.
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@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@JC said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@jegga said in BOP Eruption?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:
Well after the passing of the euthanasia law maybe it wont be an issue, just get the pilot to say he wants euthanasia ... death by volcano.
Then if he does make it back he can change his mind.Terrible bloody movie
What is this word "versus" ... ?
Joe verses the Volcano
Revertere ad ludum, stultus. Plebes commictilis sunt.
So google translate gives me:
"Return to the game, stupid. VILE the commons"
Assuming you're saying "pull your head in dickhead"?
Ludus / ludum also means school. Plebs / plebes means common people. Commictilis means disgusting.
So loosely, back to school idiot. Common people disgust me.
No offence 😉
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@JC said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@JC said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@jegga said in BOP Eruption?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:
Well after the passing of the euthanasia law maybe it wont be an issue, just get the pilot to say he wants euthanasia ... death by volcano.
Then if he does make it back he can change his mind.Terrible bloody movie
What is this word "versus" ... ?
Joe verses the Volcano
Revertere ad ludum, stultus. Plebes commictilis sunt.
So google translate gives me:
"Return to the game, stupid. VILE the commons"
Assuming you're saying "pull your head in dickhead"?
Ludus / ludum also means school. Plebs / plebes means common people. Commictilis means disgusting.
So loosely, back to school idiot. Common people disgust me.
No offence 😉
Not sure I took any. Mainly coz I no understand ...
(You do realise I have a particular hatred for the use of verse/versing and was amused to see the word versus used properly? Just checking)
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@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@JC said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@JC said in BOP Eruption?:
@booboo said in BOP Eruption?:
@jegga said in BOP Eruption?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in BOP Eruption?:
Well after the passing of the euthanasia law maybe it wont be an issue, just get the pilot to say he wants euthanasia ... death by volcano.
Then if he does make it back he can change his mind.Terrible bloody movie
What is this word "versus" ... ?
Joe verses the Volcano
Revertere ad ludum, stultus. Plebes commictilis sunt.
So google translate gives me:
"Return to the game, stupid. VILE the commons"
Assuming you're saying "pull your head in dickhead"?
Ludus / ludum also means school. Plebs / plebes means common people. Commictilis means disgusting.
So loosely, back to school idiot. Common people disgust me.
No offence 😉
Not sure I took any. Mainly coz I no understand ...
(You do realise I have a particular hatred for the use of verse/versing and was amused to see the word versus used properly? Just checking)
Yeah I got that @booboo. Latin humour doesn’t travel well, it turns out. Who knew?