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    @Toddy said in Blues 2020:

    @Duluth why's that? Managing players through a long season? Could be a stroke of genius if Leon pulls it off.

    KEEPING OUR POWDER DRY FOR WHEN BEAUDY ARRIVES

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @Duluth and I think that managing thier load is particularly important for guys like Sotutu (and Robinson last year) when they are pretty much super noobs.

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    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2020:

    these are the sort of stats I think we all wanted to see from Akira..

    Akira was top 3 in plenty of stats in previous seasons.

    I think Akira is not playing for the same reason Robinson is not starting.

    Lol no its not. Akira is fat. Needs to get fit before gets back in the squad

    Is he playing club rugby or anything while Blues are away?

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    No mention of any defensive numbers in those stats. Akira would rack up good runs as well but it was the ruck attendance and defensive positioning stats that held him back. Too often not where he needed to be (or inconsistent at that aspect through a game)

    However, I don't buy into the talk that he has been dropped. I think the coaches are trying a different approach with him this year. I also don't think he is fat/unfit unless he was absent from all of that pre-season stuff. I think he has been deliberately given a longer lead in to try and have him peaking when they need him too be rather than fading through overwork.

    Sotutu has been very good and together they will make a good one/two punch.

    There was going to be little gained in the first few weeks with such a tough early draw but much can be gained and momentum built through the middle of the season for the Blues to get a run on. 7 out of their last 10 games are quite winnable as long as they haven't dug a huge hole through lack of confidence and injuries early on.

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    Why are some saying he is fat and some think he isn't?

    Surely we should actually know this? Has anyone seen him?

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    @Hooroo said in Blues 2020:

    Why are some saying he is fat and some think he isn't?

    Surely we should actually know this? Has anyone seen him?

    Yes, caught eating in the stands 😂 😂 😂

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    @Hooroo said in Blues 2020:

    Surely we should actually know this? Has anyone seen him?

    Saw him up close a few days ago. Calling him fat is just retarded

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    @Hooroo said in Blues 2020:

    Surely we should actually know this? Has anyone seen him?

    Saw him up close a few days ago. Calling him fat is just retarded

    @JK ya retard! 🙂

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    @Hooroo

    Yes @jk is a retard

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    @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

    No mention of any defensive numbers in those stats. Akira would rack up good runs as well but it was the ruck attendance and defensive positioning stats that held him back. Too often not where he needed to be (or inconsistent at that aspect through a game)

    Last season he had extremely high tackle percentage (I think it was 1 missed in the first 5-6 games). The number of tackles per match was similar to other AB contenders.

    That fell apart in the last third of the season..

    @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

    However, I don't buy into the talk that he has been dropped. I think the coaches are trying a different approach with him this year. I also don't think he is fat/unfit unless he was absent from all of that pre-season stuff. I think he has been deliberately given a longer lead in to try and have him peaking when they need him too be rather than fading through overwork.

    Sotutu has been very good and together they will make a good one/two punch.

    There was going to be little gained in the first few weeks with such a tough early draw but much can be gained and momentum built through the middle of the season for the Blues to get a run on. 7 out of their last 10 games are quite winnable as long as they haven't dug a huge hole through lack of confidence and injuries early on.

    Agree with the rest of this.. half a 'like' vote

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    No hes actually unfit. From inside the squad. Hoping hes doing the right stuff while the rest of squad are away so can actually make a contribution to the team

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    @JK said in Blues 2020:

    No hes actually unfit. From inside the squad. Hoping hes doing the right stuff while the rest of squad are away so can actually make a contribution to the team

    That makes logical sense to me from the outside.

    He's done next to nothing since NPC? No way they are "saving' him for mid season

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    Actually, theres no real club rugby on at the moment so dunno what they have him doing while not playing

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    @JK There may still be sevens tournaments he could play in?

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    @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

    @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

    No mention of any defensive numbers in those stats. Akira would rack up good runs as well but it was the ruck attendance and defensive positioning stats that held him back. Too often not where he needed to be (or inconsistent at that aspect through a game)

    Last season he had extremely high tackle percentage (I think it was 1 missed in the first 5-6 games). The number of tackles per match was similar to other AB contenders.

    That fell apart in the last third of the season..

    @Crucial said in Blues 2020:

    However, I don't buy into the talk that he has been dropped. I think the coaches are trying a different approach with him this year. I also don't think he is fat/unfit unless he was absent from all of that pre-season stuff. I think he has been deliberately given a longer lead in to try and have him peaking when they need him too be rather than fading through overwork.

    Sotutu has been very good and together they will make a good one/two punch.

    There was going to be little gained in the first few weeks with such a tough early draw but much can be gained and momentum built through the middle of the season for the Blues to get a run on. 7 out of their last 10 games are quite winnable as long as they haven't dug a huge hole through lack of confidence and injuries early on.

    Agree with the rest of this.. half a 'like' vote

    I was talking about his latter half of the season.

    Shag was very upfront. He basically said that Akira looked tired and had to find a way to keep his stats up through the season.
    I agree with that but think that maybe the realisation is that Akira is not the type that can thrash himself all season. He needs to build into it if you want him in the AB mix later on. There's nothing wrong with that and plenty of established ABs are actually managed to do just that. In Shag's eyes though you don't want it enough if you can't last the season while trying to force your way in to the top end.
    If we have it right here, I think that Rangi is trying something different with Akira to see how it works out both physically and mentally. Worth a shot IMO.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial Is there any proof of MacDonald managing him like that, or is this just wishful thinking? (I have no opinion on this; I don't know).

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    @Stargazer said in Blues 2020:

    @Crucial Is there any proof of MacDonald managing him like that, or is this just wishful thinking? (I have no opinion on this; I don't know).

    It's an opinion based on how he's managing other players game time, like Robinson, and comments McDonald has made about avoiding mistakes he made last year with player workfloads at the end of the season.

    The obvious player burned out was Akira.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @Kirwan

    Also he played well in the pre-season

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    wrote on last edited by
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    I'd say the truth lies somewhere in the middle and is a combination of things

    • not wanting to burn players out (Akira has been the worst victim of this in the past).

    • Sotutu's really strong Mitre 10 Cup-preseason-early season form

    • Akira could still improve his fitness (in his cameo in Newcastle he looked fitter than Mitre 10 Cup but still looked like he had work to do).

    The proof will be when he next plays.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2020:

    I'd say the truth lies somewhere in the middle and is a combination of things

    • not wanting to burn players out (Akira has been the worst victim of this in the past).

    • Sotutu's really strong Mitre 10 Cup-preseason-early season form

    • Akira could still improve his fitness (in his cameo in Newcastle he looked fitter than Mitre 10 Cup but still looked like he had work to do).

    The proof will be when he next plays.

    Do you not think that a reason for your third point is answered by your first? Why be at peak if you are looking to peak later?

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