Coronavirus - Overall
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@Victor-Meldrew I think this is a possible outcome for larger companies that have a better handle on working practices and perhaps less ego involved but less so for some smaller companies where you can get a more emotional response to things. I could be wrong and influenced by my own workplace where there is an overly controlling management, but I have enough grey hairs to understand that it is difficult to take the human response out of things.
Logic would say you're right, experience would say hold on a minute. Certainly as we are at present.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I do wonder if the current crisis will see a shift in how we work and how society operates - people gettting used to working from home, managers see overall productivity the same and the need for the daily commute seen as not only an expensive pain the the arse but not actually necessary. The infrastructure is pretty much there and reduction in CO2 could reinforce a radical change in working practices. We could well see a radical change in society - much of which could be broadly positive for the local environment and people's lives.
How will that affect major companies?
1960's "Why do men wear hats to work? - because we always have"
2020's "Why do you spend hours travelling to a place to turn on a PC when you can turn on the PC at home? - because we always have"
I’ve been working from home in the UK and NZ since 2006. It’s not for everybody, it can be quite challenging to keep productive, and it does not suit all occupations.
It’s very useful for output based work, eg write this code by this time.
I will say that the modern tools for meetings and collaboration are excellent these days.
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Well the full impact is finally being felt here in the USA
Kids are off school the rest of the month, at least.
I have to work from home for awhile.
All sporting events are getting cancelled. I was going to take the kids to watch CO Raptors play - Rene Ranger has been in fine form, but all suspended.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I’ve been working from home in the UK and NZ since 2006. It’s not for everybody, it can be quite challenging to keep productive, and it does suit all occupations.
I was pretty much able to work from home from 2001. Hated it. Really lacked the discipline to make it work.
Often worked 3-4 days a week when working away on client sites doing 11-12 hour days and being on call for the other days if needed. That worked for me.
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Possibly people will work in the office 1-2 days a week?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Possibly people will work in the office 1-2 days a week?
That will be more likely I think. Be quite transformational.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Possibly people will work in the office 1-2 days a week?
Not sure that helps the quarantine issue? Not contagious some of the time?
OK being a bit facetious.
I think working from home will suit some occupations a whole lot more than others. IT? Piece of piss. Tyre fitters? Less so. In theory at my place we all have the ability to work from home but the reality is that some things have to go out in hard copy and then again we need to be able to deal with the mail. Not as simple as it might seem for many businesses.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Not as simple as it might seem for many businesses.
For sure. But I think the amount of home-working could well reach critical mass.
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Impressed with the supermarkets here re home delivery.
Tell them you are self-isolating and they will txt you just before they arrive and leave your stuff on your door-step if you wish. Also giving priority to people on receipt of an email from a GP.
Might help stop silly panic buying as well
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Anyone know what happens if you are blocked entry to a country? Trying to help get my brother out and there is serious risk they might not make the cut-off for singapores border closer at midnight sunday. Do they send you back from whence you came or put you in holding somewhere? Singapore will be just a transit enroute to NZ.
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@Rembrandt Does he have a travel agent? I got blocked from going to Korea last week but the travel agent managed to get us on a flight home straight away from Japan which was a big relief. Had to pay 550 extra for it but it would have been a lot worse had we got stuck in Korea. Could be a struggle if he doesn't have a travel agent though.
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@African-Monkey yep he is dealing with an agent..agent is trying to book them a flight back via vancouver for next week. To me that is way too late and canada will block spain travellers by then. Hopefully they know best.
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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD he got it wrong. He's a young man and young men do stupid things. He's apologised now.
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Last night my son's basketball was called off. The Mrs received a text from the team manager to say in the interest of health etc. My wife in her infinite wisdom asked: "is it because of the Coronavirus?"
Yesterday, after watching events like the Grand Prix get canceled as any events that gather more than 500 people will be. She bought her entry into a multi-event, due to take place next weekend which sees roughly 900 people compete...
So at least there is still a level of normalcy in my day to day life.
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@raznomore said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD he got it wrong. He's a young man and young men do stupid things. He's apologised now.
Man-boy Gobert is 27 years old.
In even funnier, more comic news another player on the team has since tested positive. He has yet to mock the panickers by pawing the media microphones and dictaphones, and the players' gear, bags and locker doors in the dressing room; followed by a heartfelt apology penned by someone else with an education.
From the New York Post:
“There’s reportedly “a lot of frustration” among teammates with Gobert, whose coronavirus diagnosis Wednesday night spurred the suspension of the NBA season and whose cavalier initial response to health protocols may have contributed to teammate Donovan Mitchell subsequently contracting the virus.
“The Jazz are fortunate that they don’t have to get back together and start playing games again right now,” ESPN insider Adrian Wojnarowki reported Thursday night on “SportsCenter” with Scott Van Pelt. “There is a lot of work to do to repair relationships, not just between Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert, but others in the locker room. There’s a lot of frustration with Gobert.”
ESPN previously reported Gobert had been “careless” in the locker room, touching teammates and their belongings, prior to his diagnosis. That led to a frenzied scene at Wednesday night’s Jazz-Thunder game and a quarantine for Jazz personnel in Oklahoma City while they were tested for coronavirus."
This incident led to cancellation of the NBA "until further notice", from ESPN:
*Jazz general manager Dennis Lindsey got the call. Gobert had tested positive for the coronavirus.
"Within minutes, Lindsey, Thunder GM Sam Presti, Bennett, (NBA Commissioner) Adam Silver and Oklahoma City county health officials had to decide how to proceed. They landed on: Postpone the game, confine both teams to their locker rooms, test everyone who came in close contact with Gobert, and put anyone who came in close contact with those people in isolation until those test results were in.
As soon as a player tested positive, Silver knew he would have to suspend the NBA season indefinitely. There was no more debate. There was not even time to notify the other teams.
"This was a split-second decision," Silver would later say."*
As for the bloke who gets to sweep up after the fans have left and who now has no work - what does he do when it comes time to pay his rent? Show the landlord a copy of the donkey's apology?
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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD Man you are tough of late! The guy acted like an ass. But it just indicates how the average guy in the USA probably viewed the virus a week ago. And it's not like he will be the only guy to contract it. Far from it and it may help educate their people as to how serious this situation is. Sports were going to shut down and it's not all thanks to one guy