All time Super Rugby XV (all teams)
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@cgrant said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
Folau and not Cullen ? Hmmm.
Zinzan Brooke was heads and shoulders above the rest during the nineties. Best Nr.8 IMO.
Carter was the best 10 ever but not in Super Rugby. The most brilliant was Carlos Spencer. He gets my vote with Stephen Larkham bubbling under.Bottom line for me is winning trophies.
I'm massive Cullen fan, let me explain my reasonsing for not choosing him at 15. Israel Folau was the Waratahs best player when they won the trophy in 2014. Cullen was never part of a team that won the title. Folau's 60 tries in 96 games is the record in Super Rugby and by far the best of his era.
Carter is the record point scorer in Super Rugby. He had a much better defensive game than Carlos Spencer. Carlos was 2nd choice goal kicker to Adrian Cashmore at the Blues in the 1990s.
Kieran Read won the Super Title four times and played in two other finals. In his 12 Super seasons, the Crusaders made the Semi Finals 10 times, an astonishing record that is unlikely to be ever matched.
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If you want the backline that scored the most tries this is it.
15- Israel Folau (60)
14- Doug Howlett (59)
11 - Caleb Ralph (58)
13 - Stirling Mortlock (56)
12 - Ma'a Nonu (56)
10 - Beauden Barrett (34) ?-not 100% on this.
9 - TJ Perenara (55)I couldn't find the records for forwards but Scott Higginbotham is the only forward on Wiki with 41.
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@sparky said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@cgrant said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
Folau and not Cullen ? Hmmm.
Zinzan Brooke was heads and shoulders above the rest during the nineties. Best Nr.8 IMO.
Carter was the best 10 ever but not in Super Rugby. The most brilliant was Carlos Spencer. He gets my vote with Stephen Larkham bubbling under.Bottom line for me is winning trophies.
Based on that you would select Fourie du Preez or Marshall ahead of Gregan.
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@Bovidae said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@sparky said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@cgrant said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
Folau and not Cullen ? Hmmm.
Zinzan Brooke was heads and shoulders above the rest during the nineties. Best Nr.8 IMO.
Carter was the best 10 ever but not in Super Rugby. The most brilliant was Carlos Spencer. He gets my vote with Stephen Larkham bubbling under.Bottom line for me is winning trophies.
Based on that you would select Fourie du Preez or Marshall ahead of Gregan.
And cashmore or MacDonald at 15
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@Bones said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
Yeah this "so and so won X number of titles" is a bit weird as an overriding factor.
Surely it's harder to score tries, etc, if your team isn't a title winner?
Hey look the Highlanders have arrived
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@mariner4life said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@Bones said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
Yeah this "so and so won X number of titles" is a bit weird as an overriding factor.
Surely it's harder to score tries, etc, if your team isn't a title winner?
Hey look the Highlanders have arrived
All their best Super Rugby players that might be in contention (Maka, Meeuws, Wilson, Kronfeld, Stanley, etc) were when I was a Canes supoorter. It's funny watching you fuckers forget I'm just another @Crucial / @Nepia
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@Bones said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@mariner4life said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@Bones said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
Yeah this "so and so won X number of titles" is a bit weird as an overriding factor.
Surely it's harder to score tries, etc, if your team isn't a title winner?
Hey look the Highlanders have arrived
All their best Super Rugby players that might be in contention (Maka, Meeuws, Wilson, Kronfeld, Stanley, etc) were when I was a Canes supoorter. It's funny watching you fuckers forget I'm just another @Crucial / @Nepia
The Smiths are surely in contention as much as some of these names (the halfback and fullback i mean.... not the right wing Morrissey)
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@chimoaus said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
If you want the backline that scored the most tries this is it.
15- Israel Folau (60)
14- Doug Howlett (59)
11 - Caleb Ralph (58)
13 - Stirling Mortlock (56)
12 - Ma'a Nonu (56)
10 - Beauden Barrett (34) ?-not 100% on this.
9 - TJ Perenara (55)I couldn't find the records for forwards but Scott Higginbotham is the only forward on Wiki with 41.
My question to that list would be how many tries are they setting up for others..? in all seriousness would anyone take Caleb Ralph as their first choice winger?
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@Bovidae said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@sparky said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@cgrant said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
Folau and not Cullen ? Hmmm.
Zinzan Brooke was heads and shoulders above the rest during the nineties. Best Nr.8 IMO.
Carter was the best 10 ever but not in Super Rugby. The most brilliant was Carlos Spencer. He gets my vote with Stephen Larkham bubbling under.Bottom line for me is winning trophies.
Based on that you would select Fourie du Preez or Marshall ahead of Gregan.
I would. Grogan was a brilliant, brilliant Super Rugby player, but at that level Marshall was clearly better than him. At international level, however, George was clearly a better halfback than Marshall (as was FDP for that matter).
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any backline that doesnt include Rupeni in it, is wrong haha
Shame we never saw more of him, nor did we probably even see the best of him.
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@taniwharugby said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
any backline that doesnt include Rupeni in it, is wrong haha
Shame we never saw more of him, nor did we probably even see the best of him.
I think we saw the best of him. It was just that his best only appeared in short bursts.
That Blues game against the Brumbies back whenever showcased freakiness.
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@taniwharugby I know it's not Super rugby but I figured you may remember better - didn't he have an absolute freak game for Northland against Auckland in the NPC - or am I remembering that wrong.
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@Toddy he did have a couple, played a hand on one of our rare wins over Auckland, but I recall when he played his first game for us, may have been v SOuthland, he 'broke' the Fantasy Rugby system, they had to delay the results for a few days while they fixed things as his numbers were unprecedented.
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@Toddy said in All time Super Rugby XV (all teams):
@taniwharugby I know it's not Super rugby but I figured you may remember better - didn't he have an absolute freak game for Northland against Auckland in the NPC - or am I remembering that wrong.
He was amazing and James Arlidge had one of his best ever games. A crazy high scoring game
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It was 2001. Last minute Rupeni try to steal the game 44-43
That game was as good as anything he did for the Blues in 2003. I think it was Howlett that he cruised past for the last try
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@Duluth great find!
It was an awesome game to watch. Auckland were generally my second team to support in the NPC, especially as the in-laws absolutely hated them. It was a bizarre watch as this 'new' winger kept tearing them a new one.
Also, it's not often you see a team rewarded for kicking the ball away at the end of the game.
