Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It seems we don't have as many tests as the PM would have us believe
I disagree. The tests are there, but - as the PM says - the distribution is the problem. I assume DHBs are stretched at the moment, but they need to get tests to the right places faster.
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It seems we don't have as many tests as the PM would have us believe
I disagree. The tests are there, but - as the PM says - the distribution is the problem. I assume DHBs are stretched at the moment, but they need to get tests to the right places faster.
Ultimately we are not testing enough. They have to get those supplies delivered ASAP
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So on my walk out the door, 2 people fishing, another pair out on kayaks fishing, another guy just finishing his SUP and loading it onto his car, one guy had gone out on his tiny tinny launch thingy to work on his yacht, and a last one driving off with a wet kayak on his roof. A couple of guys my age walking and laughing together, don't really know them but I do know they don't live together. Bloke on his harley out for a cruise. And, as normal, half a dozen plus couples cruising around in cars.
Walking outside is supposed to make you relax, but I'm finding it just pisses me off!
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@Machpants I got a mate out Sandy's and he said people out surfing most days, one day there was pretty much no swell but still out there.
He's a surfer too, but he hasn't been out.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Machpants I got a mate out Sandy's and he said people out surfing most days, one day there was pretty much no swell but still out there.
He's a surfer too, but he hasn't been out.
If you live within walking distance of the surf couldn't you legitimately claim that surfing was your daily exercise?
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@Nepia I think the point with surfing, boating etc is that there is always a small risk (marginally higher than walking I guess) that you may require essential services to divert to you should something happen while on the water.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Nepia I think the point with surfing, boating etc is that there is always a small risk (marginally higher than walking I guess) that you may require essential services to divert to you shold something happen.
Ah right, makes sense, I wasn't even thinking about that!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Nepia I think the point with surfing, boating etc is that there is always a small risk (marginally higher than walking I guess) that you may require essential services to divert to you should something happen while on the water.
People confined to their homes should stay out of bathrooms then.
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Yep official word is no surfing, it's on the webpage. Going to the bathroom has risk, but it is essential. Driving then surfing has higher risk, but is in no fucking way essential. I'm really keen for this lock down to end in 3 weeks, the more people who follow the letter and the spirit of stay the fuck home the higher chance there is of that.
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@canefan add heart ops to that list to. A work colleague's dad was meant to have surgery in Wgtn last week for a heart issue (ongoing strokes) and it's been cancelled indefinitely.
Ongoing messaging and escalating punishment is going to be needed the longer this stretches out. Just had a yarn to the missus about how we might have responded to this as 25 year olds... a shitload better than the current crop was the answer, but it's easy to say that I guess
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan add heart ops to that list to. A work colleague's dad was meant to have surgery in Wgtn last week for a heart issue (ongoing strokes) and it's been cancelled indefinitely.
Ongoing messaging and escalating punishment is going to be needed the longer this stretches out. Just had a yarn to the missus about how we might have responded to this as 25 year olds... a shitload better than the current crop was the answer, but it's easy to say that I guess
Yes. All ops, very important to their recipients
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Nepia I think the point with surfing, boating etc is that there is always a small risk (marginally higher than walking I guess) that you may require essential services to divert to you should something happen while on the water.
People confined to their homes should stay out of bathrooms then.
Poor attitude IMO. Why should rescue staff be put at risk at contracting the virus because someone wants to surf, or go boating on the water? Go for a jog.
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@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Nepia I think the point with surfing, boating etc is that there is always a small risk (marginally higher than walking I guess) that you may require essential services to divert to you should something happen while on the water.
People confined to their homes should stay out of bathrooms then.
Poor attitude IMO. Why should rescue staff be put at risk at contracting the virus because someone wants to surf, or go boating on the water? Go for a jog.
It's about likelihood. I hear the same argument about going for a ride. ICUs aren't currently full and I don't plan on having an accident. That's why they're called accidents.
Same for people riding pushbikes, or spraining their ankle, or having heart attacks. As largely as possible people should be having normalcy within the bounds of these restrictions. Simply because they're apparently going to be in place for a long time.
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@antipodean an accident on land is more often different scale to SAR on water...a minor injury or incident on land is easier dealt with than a minor one on the water.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Nepia I think the point with surfing, boating etc is that there is always a small risk (marginally higher than walking I guess) that you may require essential services to divert to you should something happen while on the water.
People confined to their homes should stay out of bathrooms then.
Poor attitude IMO. Why should rescue staff be put at risk at contracting the virus because someone wants to surf, or go boating on the water? Go for a jog.
It's about likelihood. I hear the same argument about going for a ride. ICUs aren't currently full and I don't plan on having an accident. That's why they're called accidents.
Same for people riding pushbikes, or spraining their ankle, or having heart attacks. As largely as possible people should be having normalcy within the bounds of these restrictions. Simply because they're apparently going to be in place for a long time.
As long as these people realize no one is coming for them if they get in trouble.... which we all know isn't going to happen. It's the biggest global health crisis in most of our lifetimes, can't we just stick to the rules?
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@Nepia I think the point with surfing, boating etc is that there is always a small risk (marginally higher than walking I guess) that you may require essential services to divert to you should something happen while on the water.
People confined to their homes should stay out of bathrooms then.
Poor attitude IMO. Why should rescue staff be put at risk at contracting the virus because someone wants to surf, or go boating on the water? Go for a jog.
It's about likelihood. I hear the same argument about going for a ride. ICUs aren't currently full and I don't plan on having an accident. That's why they're called accidents.
Same for people riding pushbikes, or spraining their ankle, or having heart attacks. As largely as possible people should be having normalcy within the bounds of these restrictions. Simply because they're apparently going to be in place for a long time.
We will always have that as part of living, wih Surfing and watersports we can eliminate completely the risk if they aren't on the water.
As @taniwharugby says, on land there is two people already working that can tend to a heart attack etc etc, on the water these people are only on call. It always takes more than two people to attend a water call out