Black Lives Matter
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Burnley FC promising lifetime bans for fans who flew a "white lives matter" banner. WTAF.
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So why can't all of this be important and worthy of focus? Creating change in and around policing and related policy to improve outcomes for groups over-represented in shitty police treatment (acknowledging the relationship with higher rates of crime) seems to be something that can gain more traction, more swiftly than the bigger underlying issues around Black on Black violence. The latter is deeply related to all sorts of socio economic stuff which will need (imo) a much longer term focus to effect change. Just because one specific issue has been focused on doesn't mean the other shitty stuff doesn't need action or attention.
Just seems to be a constant criticism of BLM that they aren't doing everything all at the same time. Or that they should focus on Black on Black violence first then focus on other stuff.
Don't get me wrong, there is a shitload of stuff going on in and around BLM and associated 'woke' politics that I think is batshit insane. But diminishing the value or relevance (or whatever) of the current goal to improve treatment and accountability by police (again in the general sense, obviously not all cops are racist fuckheads) is something worth pursuing imo.
The stuff that has been changing around bodycam requirements, the oversight processes, and a bunch of other policy stuff will absolutely improve treatment for all groups, but particularly Black Americans. That all happened pretty bloody quickly once the wider population caught on to the culture, lack of training, militarisation, etc, etc that has let this sort of behaviour manifest.
I just can't see a similar focus and effort around Black on Black violence having anywhere as positive movement (boom tish) in the same period of time.
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@Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:
Sums up about where a lot of folk are starting to sit with this
https://streamable.com/g8cvqzMore breast pump spam?
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@Catogrande I think any ads are based on your own internet activity...
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@Catogrande I think any ads are based on your own internet activity...
@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
@Catogrande I think any ads are based on your own internet activity...
Something you want to share there @Catogrande ?
Unfortunately a lot of videos I get sent don't exist on FB Twitter etc due to the wrongthink component of it, streamable hosts them however the auto-embedding on here coupled with their adverts can cause issues for watching.
and after the last / add g8cvqz
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I defend my right to enjoy specialist minority interests.
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Will BLM acknowledge that Black Africans were part of the historical problem and are still part of the current problem?
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@Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:
Sums up about where a lot of folk are starting to sit with this
https://streamable.com/g8cvqzHow do you skip the adverts/diversions?
I got through to here:
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If you push quote then c&p the link into a browser it works.
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@Siam said in Black Lives Matter:
Four black men talking about their people for an hour. A subject you'd think they'd know about.
Fascinating and illuminating
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@Paekakboyz said in Black Lives Matter:
So why can't all of this be important and worthy of focus? Creating change in and around policing and related policy to improve outcomes for groups over-represented in shitty police treatment (acknowledging the relationship with higher rates of crime) seems to be something that can gain more traction, more swiftly than the bigger underlying issues around Black on Black violence. The latter is deeply related to all sorts of socio economic stuff which will need (imo) a much longer term focus to effect change.
Black on black crime is too difficult a social challenge to tackle so instead let's focus on the ill-defined and unquantifiable 'chronic and systemic disease of whiteness' instead?
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@canefan said in Black Lives Matter:
NASCAR's one black driver asked if they could cease to display the Confederate flag at NASCAR events, which they agreed to. 10 days later he finds a noose in his garage stall. Crazy
It’s crazy that anyone took this claim seriously
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@Duluth said in Black Lives Matter:
@canefan said in Black Lives Matter:
NASCAR's one black driver asked if they could cease to display the Confederate flag at NASCAR events, which they agreed to. 10 days later he finds a noose in his garage stall. Crazy
It’s crazy that anyone took this claim seriously
Infuriating.
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The ABC: Is chess racist because white always moves first?
More at 7
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The photos of the rope has been circulating from the beginning
The loop is big enough for a hand and is connected to the garage door. Apparently ropes like this are all over that track
People's bullshit detectors should go off very early on a story like this.
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@Duluth said in Black Lives Matter:
The photos of the rope has been circulating from the beginning
The loop is big enough for a hand and is connected to the garage door. Apparently ropes like this are all over that track
People's bullshit detectors should go off very early on a story like this.
Wasn't the original story that the noose was in his locker?
Stinks of another Smollett action. I'm sure there will be no repercussions though. If BLM get there way there will also be no investigations into these incidents. Investigation like science and logic is racist.
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@Rembrandt said in Black Lives Matter:
Stinks of another Smollett action. I'm sure there will be no repercussions though. If BLM get there way there will also be no investigations into these incidents. Investigation like science and logic is racist.
This is a bit too conspiratorial.
Unless their action was designed to provoke widespread support for a black driver, and a show of solidarity among NASCAR drivers as they stand up against racism (perceived or actual).
If that's the case... lock them up!
If they came out and tried to put it on driver X or team Y then you'd be a little suspicious, but there's been nothing of that sort in the coverage I've seen.