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    @Machpants said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Crucial Kangaroos came to NZR to offer it as a money maker, NZR said 'we're looking at it, same way as we are looking a shit ton of things in these fucked up times' (paraphrased 😉 )

    "It's one of the many different options ... we are considering," Robinson said.
    "It's not new. The last time NZR had an approach was in 2017."

    So NZR are looking at it, Kangaroo Mel and the NRL are the people who are dead keen, they want to get on the ABs fame train, with league being very minor internationally

    ARL Commission chairman Peter V’landys is reported to be considering the match and believes it could be bigger than State of Origin if promoted as a biannual fixture.
    "This would take the Kangaroos to the world. There will be global recognition," Meninga told The Courier-Mail.

    So, yeah, NRL trying to leverage ABs fame. Most international papers that mention it, UK really, say Oz League team want to play All Blacks, just gives an idea of how little known Leagu is outside NZ, Oz and PI. Rugby is tiny, League is miniscule

    And there is no way that this can be an 'All Blacks' team in that there won't be caps, the selection won't be 'the best' etc etc
    If they went ahead they will find some godawful way of using the AB brand (as they do).

    In the vein of giving League some publicity around the world most countries outside of those that play both codes don't even understand the difference. Look at how many 'Rugby's biggest hits' or 'Rugby's best tries' type videos on youtube show both codes.

    I can't see an upside for NZR here. They end up promoting a rival code.

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    I'm not disagreeing it's crap, I'm saying this is not NZR's idea, is not gauranteed, and the only upside for me (and the only reason it is even in consideration) is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 'cos we're $120 MILLION short THIS YEAR

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    The fact that Dean Lonergan is behind this proposal says it all. 🙄

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    Freak show. Silly idea. Won't bother watching.

    Had a rethink. I think it is an absolutely appalling idea. A disgusting, revolting embarrassment. What is wrong with NZR that makes them come up with such a total crock of s**te?

    I don't got get this sort of over reaction. This is just a sporting event, they aren't skinning animals live. That would be revolting.

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    I had to delete that Crucial. Brutal!

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    Social media full of:

    Kangaroos would kill them, they couldn't keep up
    ABs would totally dominate

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    @taniwharugby said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    Social media full of:

    Kangaroos would kill them, they couldn't keep up
    ABs would totally dominate

    And in every case you can be rest assured they're thinking the hybrid game is closer to their version.

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    This thread reminds me of this average team Fox put together.

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    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

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    @booboo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

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    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @booboo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

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    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @booboo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

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    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @booboo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

    I think even I would find it rather tedious watching the ball kicked off to the 5 meter marker and then a maul to other end of park, rinse and repeat for 40 mins.

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    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @booboo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

    I think even I would find it rather tedious watching the ball kicked off to the 5 meter marker and then a maul to other end of park, rinse and repeat for 40 mins.

    No doubt, hardly likely to happen though is it?

    Then again, people watch hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, kick for 80mins, so you may be right.

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    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @booboo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

    I think even I would find it rather tedious watching the ball kicked off to the 5 meter marker and then a maul to other end of park, rinse and repeat for 40 mins.

    No doubt, hardly likely to happen though is it?

    Then again, people watch hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, kick for 80mins, so you may be right.

    This is fun 🙂

    I think if League went first and say, hypothetically, put 40 points on AB's then we would see the maul to try to kick off to maul to try until score parity was reached.

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    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

    Agreed. If you change the rules to suit RL then this becomes a big waste of time. It would be like saying no kicking on the last tackle for the RL half.

    No one has mentioned that the article is saying this game would be 14-a-side. I'm not sure which position would be removed. No.8?

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    @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

    Agreed. If you change the rules to suit RL then this becomes a big waste of time. It would be like saying no kicking on the last tackle for the RL half.

    No one has mentioned that the article is saying this game would be 14-a-side. I'm not sure which position would be removed. No.8?

    Prop if there aren't scrums. And I'd play another flanker as the other prop too.

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    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @booboo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    The problem as I see it is that the hybridised rules would have to be so dramatic that any advantage rugby would have playing rugby would be non existent.

    There would be no powered scrums, and probably no lineout.

    It would be a penalty fest at the breakdown as the leaguies just wouldn't know how to approach it.

    Any hybridisation just renders the whole thing meaningless. A bit like the Gaelic-Australian Borefest.

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

    I think even I would find it rather tedious watching the ball kicked off to the 5 meter marker and then a maul to other end of park, rinse and repeat for 40 mins.

    No doubt, hardly likely to happen though is it?

    Then again, people watch hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, hit up, kick for 80mins, so you may be right.

    This is fun 🙂

    I think if League went first and say, hypothetically, put 40 points on AB's then we would see the maul to try to kick off to maul to try until score parity was reached.

    If Rugby was played first there'd be about three rucks until the league players learnt to get off the tackled player quicker. Then it would turn into a farce as they refused to contest anything.

    At least you could fulfil Eddie's wet dream of playing no props and replacing them with flankers.

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    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Bovidae said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @antipodean said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Hooroo said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    @Kirwan said in ABs vs Kangaroos?:

    40mins each half with each other's rules, and no pushing in the scrums. Then the rugby team has the ruck and lineout advantages at least.

    I would watch that in a heartbeat. I think the Rugby guys would towelled at League and vice versa. I think you would have to only allow Rolling mauls for 1 or two metres though as the league guys would be stuffed. You could prolly maul it from your own deadball line

    Fuck 'em. They crap on about how fit you have to be to jog backwards a little.

    Agreed. If you change the rules to suit RL then this becomes a big waste of time. It would be like saying no kicking on the last tackle for the RL half.

    No one has mentioned that the article is saying this game would be 14-a-side. I'm not sure which position would be removed. No.8?

    Prop if there aren't scrums. And I'd play another flanker as the other prop too.

    Surely you have no props and no hooker? Even the locks you'd ditch given no line outs.

    So now you have a pack of 7 or 8 blokes, all of pretty much the same height and weight. Starting to sound a lot like league...

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