Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@taniwharugby absolutely - its muppets like this that fuck it up for all those folk doing their Q-time without being dicks about it. I'm on the fence (boom tish) about whether I'm expecting hard-ass security onsite but people like this make me think we should taser first and apologise second!
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So the authorities are replacing existing fences at all managed isolation facilities with higher, 6 feet-high fences and this selfish bastard climbs a fence exactly at a section where the replacement work is taking place. This is a deliberate act of exposing the community to the risk of infection - even if he didn't know yet that he was infected. I don't think this is a govt stuff-up. Unless they're going to lock these people up in prisons, they can't foresee every possible instance of people trying to escape the isolation facilities. Some level of trust must be possible. This idiot has breached that trust. I hope he gets the highest possible punishment, whatever that may be.
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@Stargazer said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I don't think this is a govt stuff-up.
yeah if people are gonna try to get out, I expect they will find a way, which is why I think they need to make an example of these 2 people to act as a deterrent for further escape attempts.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
countires wellbenign
This absolutely should be a word!
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@kirwan I think yuo're right, but let's see. From a couple of hours ago, my first reaction:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Prediction: no accountability for anyone in this system either. It'll be a 'sorry, we'll try better next time'. Unbelievable.
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@Siam we were not in L4 lockdown then, so isnt comparable IMO, these people are in managed isolation, so different.
I agree in part with @Kirwan but I also think stopping some of those determined to get out, means we are for all intents and purposes locking them in thier rooms, which if it needs to go that way, then fine, but I think making an example of these 2 idiots would go a very long way to ensure others are not as quick to try to escape.
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@taniwharugby send them back from whence they came. We need to draw a line
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby send them back from whence they came. We need to draw a line
We can't do that though right. A kiwi comes home from working in the UK and commits murder on Day 3 doesn't get sent back to the Midlands. We have to prosecute citizens under our law.
If suggest we go waaaay harder than a $2.5k fine. This is a willing act of law breaking that knowingly puts our entire population and economy at risk. I'd suggest 30 days detention and at least $10k fine.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby send them back from whence they came. We need to draw a line
We can't do that though right. A kiwi comes home from working in the UK and commits murder on Day 3 doesn't get sent back to the Midlands. We have to prosecute citizens under our law.
If suggest we go waaaay harder than a $2.5k fine. This is a willing act of law breaking that knowingly puts our entire population and economy at risk. I'd suggest 30 days detention and at least $10k fine.
You're on the right track. Add in 20 lashes and 30 days hard labour
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby send them back from whence they came. We need to draw a line
We can't do that though right. A kiwi comes home from working in the UK and commits murder on Day 3 doesn't get sent back to the Midlands. We have to prosecute citizens under our law.
If suggest we go waaaay harder than a $2.5k fine. This is a willing act of law breaking that knowingly puts our entire population and economy at risk. I'd suggest 30 days detention and at least $10k fine.
You're on the right track. Add in 20 lashes and 30 days hard labour
Oooh, lashes, I like that. What about giving up your 1st born, or for the unmarried, invoking jus primae noctis (yes, I had to google for the phrase)
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby send them back from whence they came. We need to draw a line
We can't do that though right. A kiwi comes home from working in the UK and commits murder on Day 3 doesn't get sent back to the Midlands. We have to prosecute citizens under our law.
If suggest we go waaaay harder than a $2.5k fine. This is a willing act of law breaking that knowingly puts our entire population and economy at risk. I'd suggest 30 days detention and at least $10k fine.
You're on the right track. Add in 20 lashes and 30 days hard labour
Oooh, lashes, I like that. What about giving up your 1st born, or for the unmarried, invoking jus primae noctis (yes, I had to google for the phrase)
Surrender a kidney and 1/3 of their liver. Call it the Snowy punishment
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby send them back from whence they came. We need to draw a line
We can't do that though right. A kiwi comes home from working in the UK and commits murder on Day 3 doesn't get sent back to the Midlands. We have to prosecute citizens under our law.
If suggest we go waaaay harder than a $2.5k fine. This is a willing act of law breaking that knowingly puts our entire population and economy at risk. I'd suggest 30 days detention and at least $10k fine.
Pretty sure they can revoke his citizenship if he's a dual citizen and then deportation would be legal.
Edit: Taken from govt.nz
If you are a citizen by grant
The Minister can take away your citizenship if:
you got citizenship of another country and voluntarily acted against the interests of New Zealand
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@akan004 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby send them back from whence they came. We need to draw a line
We can't do that though right. A kiwi comes home from working in the UK and commits murder on Day 3 doesn't get sent back to the Midlands. We have to prosecute citizens under our law.
If suggest we go waaaay harder than a $2.5k fine. This is a willing act of law breaking that knowingly puts our entire population and economy at risk. I'd suggest 30 days detention and at least $10k fine.
Pretty sure they can revoke his citizenship if he's a dual citizen and then deportation would be legal.
Edit: Taken from govt.nz
If you are a citizen by grant
The Minister can take away your citizenship if:
you got citizenship of another country and voluntarily acted against the interests of New Zealand
Yep, limited to dual citizens though obvs. Which is me actually so I'd better be careful!