Lying on your resume
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@WillieTheWaiter said in Lying on your resume:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Lying on your resume:
@raznomore said in Lying on your resume:
I was kind of astounded they got past the interview process.
On a serious note, this. WTF was the management doing to let this guy slip thru?
On a non-serious note....
i don't think you could ever blame management for letting someone who can't email get through.. I mean jesus if you've got to ask a question for every 'basic' thing around using a computer it would be a long interview! You've got to make some assumptions - especially around the low level stuff.
sounds like as an older experienced person they got through cause they knew what they were talking about.. just couldn't use a computer!
Yeah that was my thoughts too.
I'm intrigued as to how they applied for the job though.
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@taniwharugby said in Lying on your resume:
@Bones thier 10 year old Grand Kid...
Mate I had no idea you're a grandfather! Sorry to hear about your job.
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@Bones well my eldest is more than old enough to have a kid of his own, he and his g/f dont seem keen to have kids yet, so I'm happy about that.
I didnt need to lie on my CV, and even if I did, I suck at interviewing so would get found out pretty quick!
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@taniwharugby said in Lying on your resume:
I suck at interviewing
Hah yeah this! Thankfully I've pretty much only had a couple of proper ones.
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@Bones haha yeah, think it was my 3rd interview after 10 years in the same job, being interviewed by 3 females, one of whom was hawt AF, another pretty tidy and the 3rd I knew prior to applying, so you'd think that'd make it easier...
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This is exactly what the probation period is for.
I have had 2 jobs in my professional life, and got this job as kuch through playing footy with the owners sons than anything.
I hire a lot of people though and naturally assume the CV is full of.made up or embellished stuff
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@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
No wonder he's unemployed the dumb fluffybunny can't even count to 3
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@mariner4life said in Lying on your resume:
@MN5 said in Lying on your resume:
No wonder he's unemployed the dumb fluffybunny can't even count to 3
Obviously not that kind of girl
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was going to reply to the original question...but see i'm too late
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@WillieTheWaiter said in Lying on your resume:
i don't think you could ever blame management for letting someone who can't email get through.. I mean jesus if you've got to ask a question for every 'basic' thing around using a computer it would be a long interview!
Fair point. But at the end of the day it's caused a major fuckup because someone didn't check the basic basics. IMHO that's a management issue.
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@mariner4life said in Lying on your resume:
This is exactly what the probation period is for.
I have had 2 jobs in my professional life, and got this job as kuch through playing footy with the owners sons than anything.
I hire a lot of people though and naturally assume the CV is full of.made up or embellished stuff
Got most of my work thru contacts and former clients.
Never embellished my CV as it often went back to people I had worked for, though I did put more emphasis on certain skills as necessary
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@raznomore sounds like a Seinfeld episode
Never recruited someone that flat out lied about having some technical skills and didn’t have it. Plenty have embellished on ‘soft skills’ like work well in teams, only to find out they have no social skills and a stalker...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Lying on your resume:
Never embellished my CV as it often went back to people I had worked for, though I did put more emphasis on certain skills as necessary
Likewise - I don't lie or embellish, but do emphasise what I think are relevant skills.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Lying on your resume:
@raznomore sounds like a Seinfeld episode
Never recruited someone that flat out lied about having some technical skills and didn’t have it. Plenty have embellished on ‘soft skills’ like work well in teams, only to find out they have no social skills and a stalker...
And yet, here I am, still employed.
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@raznomore said in Lying on your resume:
We all embellish but have any of you put skills in your CV you flat out don't have?? I mean this was a position for a "project manager & estimator - must have high-level computer skills and knowledge of CAD".
Note: this person was much older than usual and had actual real experience as a job site project manager. They just didn't have any office experience at all. All phone and written notes.To be fair to all involved, knowledge of computers in a work setting is pretty much a given. You'd expect anyone who has been in the workforce for the last 30 years to have mastered email and saving documents.
I've certainly presented experience and skill set in the most favourable light if I thought they were transferable. Bullshitting is a sure path to being found out and is unforgivable, whereas being honest about your experience and propensity to master new skills goes a long way.
Unfortunately I work in an industry where actually having qualifications does not in any way related to competence or experience. Carefully constructed questions at interview time sort the wheat from the chaff. And unless I know their referees, I never call them.
And never trust LinkedIn.
On Friday last week, this person bit off more than they could lie about chewing and attempted to scan plans into the custom program. They actually got about 4 out of 6 steps correct. Only the last 2 caught them out and majorly. They added the plans to an existing job instead of a new one. It was a large commercial job, national roll-out, way out of my league, and not on the same planet as this person. Months of work, estimates, amended plans, and quotes. When they added their plan they, for whatever reason, overwrote everything that was existing. I don't need to explain what that means.
Unfortunately I've seen this in too many companies and my advice is always the same; if your document system doesn't do versioning, then you aren't interested in keeping your documents.
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I've been caught out like @raznomore 's company. Employed someone in customer service who had zero computer skills.
My interview questions are more like "Sales have promised the customer a horse but we do not supply horses only camels. We cannot manufacture a horse. How do you deal with the irate customer?" not "Do you know how to turn on a computer?" Now everyone has to sit a test.
People will lie about anything. We police vet everyone pre-employment and explain this in advance. To date the "winner" was a guy who had 8 pages of convictions including both multiple violence and theft, fraud and theft as a servant. I mean why did he bother.
This thread has prompted me to add another question to our standard interview - "How many work hours a day do you spend chatting to
Polish chicksfat old geezers on the internet?"