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Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18

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    @Duluth said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    1. Joe Moody (47)
    2. Dane Coles (70)
    3. Ofa Tuungafasi (36)
    4. Patrick Tuipulotu (31)
    5. Tupou Vaa’i (1)
    6. Shannon Frizell (10)
    7. Sam Cane (69) - captain
    8. Ardie Savea (45)
    9. Aaron Smith (93)
    10. Richie Mo’unga (18)
    11. Caleb Clarke (1)
    12. Jack Goodhue (14)
    13. Anton Lienert-Brown (44)
    14. Jordie Barrett (18)
    15. Beauden Barrett (84)
    16. Codie Taylor (51)
    17. Alex Hodgman - debut
    18. Nepo Laulala (27)
    19. Scott Barrett (36)
    20. Hoskins Sotutu (1)
    21. TJ Perenara (65)
    22. Rieko Ioane (30)
    23. Damian McKenzie (24)

    WTF? Dropping Rieko to the bench is dumb. Disappointed that Foster continues to overlook Akira Ioane who could be World Class. Frizell is unconvincing. Our exciting young specialist 8 is still stuck on the bench. Mo'unga is a fine player at Super Level but unconvincing as a Test 10. Our best Test 10 (twice World player of the year) is at 15, our best 15 is on the Wing, the Centres are the wrong way round. Arguably the most exciting young back in World Rugby, Will Jordan, doesn't make the 23. Rennie and his men must be laughing.

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Toddy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @ACT-Crusader Yeah, can't remember how he played in super rugby that year. Fairly strong team overall though with a rubbish loose forward trio.

    I wasn’t posting on the Fern at the time but had been lurking since the 03 Tri Nations, and I recall some angst/confusion on the Rush selection, Mils to the wing and Evans at fullback, Mertz back in the fold, Henry being Auckland centric with Tuitupo selection, Gibbes ‘are you kidding’

    These aren’t my views and as I said earlier you could justify any selection eg Rush had a very good 04 Super campaign, but it did raise questions.

    wasn't Rush there to help with the transition of the culture away from the boozy boys club Mitchell and Deans had allowed to fester? Good player, but that wasn't his main role.

    Anyone questioning Gibbes had no clue about rugby. But also a good culture man.

    But they dropped Mertz 😉

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Toddy said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @ACT-Crusader Yeah, can't remember how he played in super rugby that year. Fairly strong team overall though with a rubbish loose forward trio.

    I wasn’t posting on the Fern at the time but had been lurking since the 03 Tri Nations, and I recall some angst/confusion on the Rush selection, Mils to the wing and Evans at fullback, Mertz back in the fold, Henry being Auckland centric with Tuitupo selection, Gibbes ‘are you kidding’

    These aren’t my views and as I said earlier you could justify any selection eg Rush had a very good 04 Super campaign, but it did raise questions.

    wasn't Rush there to help with the transition of the culture away from the boozy boys club Mitchell and Deans had allowed to fester? Good player, but that wasn't his main role.

    Anyone questioning Gibbes had no clue about rugby. But also a good culture man.

    Rush fined, given written warning for drunken antics - NZ Herald

    It was apparently after the last loss in the tri-nations in 2004 that the three coaches, McCaw and Umaga realised the culture had to change.

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    Looks like Cane just loves playing Aus...

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    @taniwharugby that right hand side looks like he's been avoiding fibre...

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    what is interesting, is that the highest tackle counts by 1 player, 4/6 games were v Aus, so does that say they change thier tactic and run at our 7 all day or do we set up for that?

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    @KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    A lot of talk about about Beaudy's achilles - Beaudy mentioned today it dates back to last year pre-RWC - wonder if that is the reason for his drop in speed over the last 12 months or so?

    Will Jordan on standby for the bench if Barrett doesn’t get through the rigours of the pre game.

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    It's all been said but absolutely baffled. The only place they've departed from their "plan" is to further fuck around in the midfield, with yet another untried option. Blaming Roane for the option taking is an absolute fucking cop out.

    Aoane straight to starting 8 when Savea heads to the hospital.

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    wasn't Rush there to help with the transition of the culture away from the boozy boys club Mitchell and Deans had allowed to fester?

    The guy who pissed in a bar in Auckland? Well, the other guy, as I think Mils did as well.

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    I'd prefer Cane made only 15 tackles and we actually won some contests and collisions and had the ball.

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    @Rapido Don't we need the ball for Cane to stop tackling? Perhaps we could try that.

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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I'd prefer Cane made only 15 tackles and we actually won some contests and collisions and had the ball.

    But then we'd have @shark starting another thread saying we don't need him.

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    @chimoaus do we kick more v Aus?

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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @chimoaus do we kick more v Aus?

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    @booboo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Kiap said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Relax, guys. Our blokes' best chance is at Suncorp and then perhaps still having a shot in the dead rubber in Sydney.

    ABs by two tries at Eden Park, cementing Foster in place for years to come.

    Aussie venues the other way around. Sydders first 31/10, Brissie 7/11

    Good point.

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    @nzzp said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @chimoaus do we kick more v Aus?

    I could watch that all day...

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    @nzzp aussie hit doesnt look terribly legal

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    The Giraffe selection is still baffling and the tight 5 looks inexperienced, though arguably stocks are pretty thin there right now. One thing's for sure, we need Pat T is have a big game.

    On the plus side, Fozzie is sticking to his guns and not panicking. He's also put our 2 best midfielders on the sheet along with Caleb Clarke. (But I can't help wondering if the lack of panic is actually a rabbit searching for a headlight)

    Only other plus is if the Fozzie-led TWM turn out to be utter crap, better we find out now in 2020 rather than 2022 or 2023.

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    @Tim said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Our lineout looks pretty vulnerable. A skinny rookie lock, no targets at 7 or 8, and an unproven six (is he any good as a target?).

    Sotutu should be starting at 8, and would give an option.

    Frizzel? Yeah, he goes fine.
    Him and Parkinson were the Highlanders two main targets - Frizz was fourth in comp for lineouts won, Parkinson 2nd.
    Highlanders had the most successful lineout in comp.

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