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<p>All I know is that Donsteppa better go into hiding if it is retained by one vote.....</p>
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Jim Bolger's most memorable quote in a very beige career was bugger the pollsters after a shock election night result in 1993 (the last FPP election).<br><br>Pre-vote polls showed a comfortable majority for the Nats but as votes were counted it looked like a hung parliament.<br><br>In the end one seat changed hands in Nationals favour after special votes and they cleverly made a Labour MP Speaker giving them an effective majority of two in the new parliament.<br><br>Since then Bolger's quote is rolled out at every election by the party behind in the polls. I think it was Annette King who used it last time, but since then they have been depressingly accurate.<br><br>Upsets were more likely under FPP Labour lost in 75 and 78 despite winning a majority of the vote, (a large reason for the push for as it depended on the geographical spread of your votes whether they effectively counted.
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David Farrer has called it already saying we are keeping the old flag, given the accuracy of his polling firm I'd say it's staying the same.<br><br>
Had a leftard building inspector come in today and tell me that this was all a distraction do John key can use the tppa to funnel all of our money out of the country to his firm . No mention of whether or not he organised it from his lair under a volcano while stroking a Persian cat . <br>
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Can anybody remember at any point in time where polls have ended up being completely wrong? I can't, and for that reason, I can't see it changing.<br><br>
My WT relatives reaction if it does though will be nothing short of SENSATIONAL.</p></blockquote>
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Erm, the UK generation election last year. Polls all along pointed to a hung parliament or a Miliband/Sturgeon governing coalition between Labour and the SNP. Then on the day the Tories romped home, despite being painted as evil, poor-bashing, benefit-cutting, old-Etonian Toffs on social media. Turns out, when push came to shove, people didn't want the national finances to go the way of Venezuela.<br><br>
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<p>All I know is that Donsteppa better go into hiding if it is retained by one vote.....</p>
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<p>Hiding? I'd be lording it over you and demanding that you sing Rule Britannia (while standing next to the poster of Andrew Little on your living room wall.)</p>
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<p>Status Quo retained on preliminary count, unsure on margin</p>
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<p>All I know is that Donsteppa better go into hiding if it is retained by one vote.....</p>
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<p>On a more serious reply, I've always loved the idea of an election decided by one vote. The gnashing of teeth of everyone who didn't vote because "nah, it won't matter", the swinging voters <em>agonising </em>about their choice for the next three years.</p>
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<p>It's nice to think when you vote that you are somehow making the casting vote...</p> -
<p><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.15px;">1,200,003 (56.</span><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.15px;">6 per cent) voted to keep the current flag.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.15px;">915,008 wanted the alternate design.</span><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.15px;"> That equates to 43.</span><span style="color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.15px;">2 per cent of voters.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.15px;">About what I thought it would be...:(</span></p> -
<p><span><span>"1,200,003 (56.</span><span>6 per cent) voted to keep the current flag."</span></span></p>
<p><span><span>"<span><span>915,008 wanted the alternate design.</span><span> That equates to 43.</span><span>2 per cent of voters." </span></span></span></span></p> -
55 vs 45 is what I expected and pretty much what we got. <br><br>
Embarrassing and sad day for a Kiwi overseas like myself. <br><br>
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<p>TV News said NZers have spoken loud and clear...56-44 isnt really that clear, not a huge given we've been hearing polls of 60-70%</p>
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<p>I really need to stop reading the comments on FB...some people just make me so freaking angry!! </p>
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<p>I really need to stop reading the comments on FB...some people just make me so freaking angry!! </p>
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<p>Applies to almost any topic on Facebook!</p> -
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I really need to stop reading the comments on FB...some people just make me so freaking angry!!</p></blockquote>
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<p>Oh I have plenty to say, I just dont have the time, and some of them I really dont want to be as diplomatic as I usually am on FB....maybe you should join just to see where the morons hang out! </p>
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<span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">TV News said NZers have spoken loud and clear...56-44 isnt really that clear, not a huge given we've been hearing polls of 60-70%</span></blockquote>
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<p>Depends how many votes weren't considered because people did things like draw dicks all over the voting paper (I didn't draw dicks all over the voting paper).</p> -
<p>The appetite for change is definitely there - unfortunately some were voting against JK whereas others were voting against the alternate design. Will be interesting to see the political environment when we next vote on a change and whether people can look past the personalties... </p>
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<p>Depends how many votes weren't considered because people did things like draw dicks all over the voting paper (I didn't draw dicks all over the voting paper).</p>
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<p>You drew big balls aye!</p>
