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@gibbonrib said in Aussie Politics:
And here is the article that Porter is claiming defamed him:
I know nothing about defamation law, so no idea if his case has any chance of success. But from a layman's point of view, I don't see anything in here that should be illegal. It doesn't identify him, doesn't make any accusations or cast any aspersions. Seems like a fairly straight reporting of the facts of the case.
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SydneyYou could get there with the appropriate "Guess Who" panel of Australian Politicians I guess.
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@nta 22 members of cabinet, 6 of who are women. I don't think the year or visiting Sydney rules anyone out. So that leaves 14 (or maybe 13, if you exclude the PM).
I can't see how you could narrow it down any more from that ABC article. Plenty of other sources where you could find out, but you've got to wonder why Porter is suing the ABC rather than any of the other dozens of media outlets that reported on it.
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@gibbonrib said in Aussie Politics:
you've got to wonder why Porter is suing the ABC rather than any of the other dozens of media outlets that reported on it.
I don't wonder about that at all
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@gibbonrib said in Aussie Politics:
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Hey man. Will get back to you on this topic.
Post was deliberately provocative so when I have time, inclination and sobriety all at once I'll discuss this and some subsequent topics on this thread, and try and make sense.
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@booboo said in Aussie Politics:
@gibbonrib said in Aussie Politics:
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Hey man. Will get back to you on this topic.
Post was deliberately provocative so when I have time, inclination and sobriety all at once I'll discuss this and some subsequent topics on this thread, and try and make sense.
Cool, I'll try to get sober in time
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@gibbonrib said in Aussie Politics:
It is certainly a very difficult, complex, murky situation. There is a balance to be struck between the public interest of a very serious allegation against a very senior and powerful individual, and his right to a presumption of innocence.
We don't want innocent people to have their careers and families destroyed by false accusations, but equally we don't want people to get away with raping and abusing women with impunity.
Which of those two things do you think is a bigger problem at the moment?
Well part of the problem as I understand the reporting is that she consented to a sex act and then others were performed. The law at the time didn't account for recklessness (https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/1991-03-17/act-1900-040#sec.61R), so the accused has to know in 1988 that consent has been withdrawn. So evidence would need to be provided that was the case. We can't ask the accuser who withdrew the complaint, we can't look at the non-existent record of interview so what do we have other than the printed accusation?
The mere idea that you can be strung up like this in the modern era and be subjected to a trial by media is repugnant to the concept of rule by law.
She can't have consented to a sex act that Porter said never happened?
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I can't find it now but someone is saying PVO is no friend of the government, did anyone mention here he is a personal friend of Porter? The guy who introduced his future wife to him?
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2021/03/14/pms-inaction-porter/
I have not been following the Project but apparently there has been tension there over this - that PVO did not quite mention this alleged connection...
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Who didn't think they are a bunch of piston wristed gibbons ...
Edit: I preferred willis for piston wristed gibbon
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well, ya know, i for one am just so stoked that Qld's politicians will get a fat pay rise over the nest year.
2% in September
another 2.25% in March
AND another 2% next SeptemberWell done them, they are doing such a great job. And definitely deserve that extra money
What's that Mariner? You can't remember the last time your pay increased? You're laying off staff and cutting hours in several business units? Ah well, sucks to not have a Government job i guess aye? Just make sure you keep paying your payroll tax, somethings got to fund Ana's lifestyle.
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I wish I understood defence spending and why it's necessary for the world to continually use enormous resources to continually compete with one another. Does Australia need a submarine fleet? I guess it just annoys me that the billions and billions spent on defence around the world could be used in far better ways.
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@chimoaus said in Aussie Politics:
I wish I understood defence spending and why it's necessary for the world to continually use enormous resources to continually compete with one another. Does Australia need a submarine fleet? I guess it just annoys me that the billions and billions spent on defence around the world could be used in far better ways.
Two reasons:
- We're an island, and
- Antipodean needs a job.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@chimoaus said in Aussie Politics:
I wish I understood defence spending and why it's necessary for the world to continually use enormous resources to continually compete with one another. Does Australia need a submarine fleet? I guess it just annoys me that the billions and billions spent on defence around the world could be used in far better ways.
Two reasons:
- We're an island, and
- Antipodean needs a job.
A grossly underpopulated island with huge resources!
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@hooroo said in Aussie Politics:
@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@chimoaus said in Aussie Politics:
I wish I understood defence spending and why it's necessary for the world to continually use enormous resources to continually compete with one another. Does Australia need a submarine fleet? I guess it just annoys me that the billions and billions spent on defence around the world could be used in far better ways.
Two reasons:
- We're an island, and
- Antipodean needs a job.
A grossly underpopulated island with huge resources!
someone could invade the Northern Territory and honestly no one on the East Coast would know for 2 weeks. Not sure many would care
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@mariner4life yeah, grossly overpopulated due to immense size
I was saying this the other day, all the hot air about WA breaking away, if they did they would have to be one of the most physically isolated "countries" in the world, a huge desert on one side and a vast ocean on the other
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