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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
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    Listening to our main game callers over the weekend highlighted an area of concern that as been coming for some time IMO.
    Nisbo is heading down the slippery slide that Keith Quinn did. The errors are getting more and more, he is struggling to keep up and comes out with some clangers that make you picture that he is calling the game from in front of a black and white TV while in his robe and slippers and waiting for his boiled egg.
    TJ is not the heir apparent. Way too much of an excited fanboy and after god knows how many decades calling games of rugby still makes statements about the laws that are plain wrong. Not interpretations or current ways of ruling but absolute basic laws of the game like telling the audience that a ref must see downward pressure from a ball carrier to award a try. Not true TJ. Never has been.

    Anyway, examples aside, who is coming through to be our 'senior' caller? The one that just calls the action, gets the players names right and conveys to viewers what is happening? At the moment we have someone who used to be very good at that but is akin to Biden and one that is technically OK but instead of becoming more 'senior' sounds more and more like an excited schoolboy.

    Does anyone know the other options? All of our current 'others' are there for 'colour' or 'analysis'.

    NB: I didn't mention Laban but seriously? Decent bloke and competent commentator but still seems to think he is watching league.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by Bovidae
    #2

    Jeff McTainsh is probably the guy Sky needs to use more. Maybe Nigel Yalden does more TV commentary.

    I'll add that a lot of the former players used in supporting roles are terrible too.

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    Not a popular opinion on here but I think Willy Lose has been excellent when I’ve heard him

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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
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    #4

    Bring back Mex

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  • G Offline
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    Gunner
    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #5

    @mn5 said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    Bring back Mex

    And all the psychic energy that comes with him?

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  • MN5M Online
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    MN5
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    @gunner said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    @mn5 said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    Bring back Mex

    And all the psychic energy that comes with him?

    There’s a whole new generation of players for him to pump as well.

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  • SmudgeS Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    Listening to our main game callers over the weekend highlighted an area of concern that as been coming for some time IMO.
    Nisbo is heading down the slippery slide that Keith Quinn did. The errors are getting more and more, he is struggling to keep up and comes out with some clangers that make you picture that he is calling the game from in front of a black and white TV while in his robe and slippers and waiting for his boiled egg.
    TJ is not the heir apparent. Way too much of an excited fanboy and after god knows how many decades calling games of rugby still makes statements about the laws that are plain wrong. Not interpretations or current ways of ruling but absolute basic laws of the game like telling the audience that a ref must see downward pressure from a ball carrier to award a try. Not true TJ. Never has been.

    Anyway, examples aside, who is coming through to be our 'senior' caller? The one that just calls the action, gets the players names right and conveys to viewers what is happening? At the moment we have someone who used to be very good at that but is akin to Biden and one that is technically OK but instead of becoming more 'senior' sounds more and more like an excited schoolboy.

    Does anyone know the other options? All of our current 'others' are there for 'colour' or 'analysis'.

    NB: I didn't mention Laban but seriously? Decent bloke and competent commentator but still seems to think he is watching league.

    The excessive screaming is the thing that really annoys me about TJ.

    Tom Bartlett has been good at the basics as a play-by-play caller at Mitre 10 Cup level. Need to try some of these guys at Super Rugby level.

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    MN5
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    Years of Nisbo’s dreary blandness was tolerable at best when he was accurate, now he is constantly making mistake and not keeping up it means his position as commentator is pretty untenable overall in my opinion.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    There are two certainties on any thread about rugby matches - useless refs and useless commentators. I don't think it matters who commentates. We will still find something to complain about.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @crazy-horse said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    There are two certainties on any thread about rugby matches - useless refs and useless commentators. I don't think it matters who commentates. We will still find something to complain about.

    And we still watch, and still listen, and still whinge.

    Love rugby.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
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    #11

    when in the UK and watching football i use to enjoy flicking over to the "fans commentary", where they'd pick out a fan from each team as they entered the ground and stick them in a commentary box together...greatness ensued, no idea if they still do it

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by Bovidae
    #12

    @kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.

    https://www.theaccnz.com/the-accs-champagne-super-rugby/

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    @bovidae said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    @kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.

    That’s pretty juvenile, it’s sport, it needs to be taken seriously. I can’t go for that.

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  • FrankF Offline
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    Frank
    wrote on last edited by Frank
    #14

    Not exactly recommending Ben for the top spot but I liked this video and thought I'd put it here.
    I went to school with him in Gisborne.
    Extremely gifted at English and a real oddball in a harmless way.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @mn5 said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    @bovidae said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    @kiwiwomble I switched over to the alternative commentary for the 2nd half of the Crusaders-Chiefs game with James McOnie and Matt Heath. Very funny if you like Sports Cafe-type humour with all the nicknames they were making up for the players. For example, Bryn Hall and Oates.

    That’s pretty juvenile, it’s sport, it needs to be taken seriously. I can’t go for that.

    Say it isn't so!

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to MajorRage on last edited by Duluth
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    @majorrage said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    Not a popular opinion on here but I think Willy Lose has been excellent when I’ve heard him

    I enjoy his commentary. He's better at being the play by play than the colour commentator. Less time to think perhaps.
    He does have a bad habit (like Sumo did) of having pre prepared lines

    He does sound like he enjoys watching the rugby which is important.

    The main Sky rugby commentators do not sound like they enjoy watching the game (well TJ enjoys watching a couple of teams..)
    They don't have to be cheerleaders but the constant whining about the same topics can make listening a chore (yes I do switch to the refs mic often)

    Save the whining about rules, refs etc to the analysis shows during the week. Particularly given TJ/Nisbitt/Marshall constantly whine about the same thing each game. The same points over and over and over

    The lower level NPC commentators, school rugby commentators, Japan Top League, Sean Maloney in Aus commentate the game in front of them and generally sound like they are having fun.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @duluth said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    @majorrage said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    Not a popular opinion on here but I think Willy Lose has been excellent when I’ve heard him

    I enjoy his commentary. He's better at being the play by play than the colour commentator. Less time to think perhaps.

    Almost word for word what I was about to post.

    Don't mind Rikki Swannell too much.

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    ploughboy
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    #18

    used to get all pissed off with commentaters but eventually worked out it gained nothing so have spent last few years just watching and enjoying the rugby. well not quite the truth am still known to tell justin marshell to shut up and fuck off

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  • nzzpN Online
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    @ploughboy said in NZ Rugby Commentators:

    used to get all pissed off with commentaters but eventually worked out it gained nothing so have spent last few years just watching and enjoying the rugby. well not quite the truth am still known to tell justin marshell to shut up and fuck off

    'confidently incorrect' is our Justin

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  • MN5M Online
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