TJ Perenara to the NRL?
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@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:
So this is why Kirwan was talking tough about resigning TJP.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was just a negotiating tactic.
Seems like it to me too, I mean he would get a shit load more money in Japan or NH rugby I would imagine. Would prefer him not to go, but as I say with anyone that does go, c'est la vie. I will stick with players that want to be here.
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@machpants agreed, he's not as bad as alot of Ferners make him out to be. The Canes really need his leadership and passion, just look at how Coles has transformed the attitude of the Canes since he's come back into the fold.
I really hope this noise about him signing with the Roosters is just a ploy to get him a solid contract with NZR.
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@machpants said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
Fuck TJ if he wants to go. Let him
I think you have that wrong. TJ should be forced to fuck off whether he wants to stay or not. He was dogshit last year and won't have improved.
I'm not. At all. It's stupid to want a quality player to fuck off to League. Everyone here moans about the exodus and lack of depth, then wants a capped player to go. You're all a bunch of fluffybunnies! I want him to stay, because we need as many good players in SR as possible. In last years SR he was one of the best by far.
I'm not saying he should be picked for the ABs, however.
But man the Canes need him, and he played like a French nine, with the play going through him. Canes would be so much better with TJ there to be the play maker rather than Leger, or to take some of the weight off Love.
Does anyone think he'd take a non-AB contract? I also don't think he'd necessarily be good for a developing 10 because his play would dominate them. Yes he was individually good in SR but that style of play doesn't fit well for the ABs as we saw.
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@antipodean said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@machpants said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
Fuck TJ if he wants to go. Let him
I think you have that wrong. TJ should be forced to fuck off whether he wants to stay or not. He was dogshit last year and won't have improved.
I'm not. At all. It's stupid to want a quality player to fuck off to League. Everyone here moans about the exodus and lack of depth, then wants a capped player to go. You're all a bunch of fluffybunnies! I want him to stay, because we need as many good players in SR as possible. In last years SR he was one of the best by far.
I'm not saying he should be picked for the ABs, however.
But man the Canes need him, and he played like a French nine, with the play going through him. Canes would be so much better with TJ there to be the play maker rather than Leger, or to take some of the weight off Love.
Does anyone think he'd take a non-AB contract? I also don't think he'd necessarily be good for a developing 10 because his play would dominate them. Yes he was individually good in SR but that style of play doesn't fit well for the ABs as we saw.
ABs will have to blood a new HB soon as Smith,Perenera and Weber are all getting on in age.You wouldn't want to have to introduce 2 or 3 at once.
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@chris said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@antipodean said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@machpants said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
Fuck TJ if he wants to go. Let him
I think you have that wrong. TJ should be forced to fuck off whether he wants to stay or not. He was dogshit last year and won't have improved.
I'm not. At all. It's stupid to want a quality player to fuck off to League. Everyone here moans about the exodus and lack of depth, then wants a capped player to go. You're all a bunch of fluffybunnies! I want him to stay, because we need as many good players in SR as possible. In last years SR he was one of the best by far.
I'm not saying he should be picked for the ABs, however.
But man the Canes need him, and he played like a French nine, with the play going through him. Canes would be so much better with TJ there to be the play maker rather than Leger, or to take some of the weight off Love.
Does anyone think he'd take a non-AB contract? I also don't think he'd necessarily be good for a developing 10 because his play would dominate them. Yes he was individually good in SR but that style of play doesn't fit well for the ABs as we saw.
ABs will have to blood a new HB soon as Smith,Perenera and Weber are all getting on in age.You wouldn't want to have to introduce 2 or 3 at once.
no i would much rather have continue to play a guy that has actually cost us games in the past by coming on and fucking shit up.
If he wants to stay in NZ on Super coin, then i will give him mad props. If he wants to dangle "i'll go to league if you don't pay me bro" in front of NZR and then i say get rid.
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@mariner4life said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@chris said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@antipodean said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@machpants said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:
Fuck TJ if he wants to go. Let him
I think you have that wrong. TJ should be forced to fuck off whether he wants to stay or not. He was dogshit last year and won't have improved.
I'm not. At all. It's stupid to want a quality player to fuck off to League. Everyone here moans about the exodus and lack of depth, then wants a capped player to go. You're all a bunch of fluffybunnies! I want him to stay, because we need as many good players in SR as possible. In last years SR he was one of the best by far.
I'm not saying he should be picked for the ABs, however.
But man the Canes need him, and he played like a French nine, with the play going through him. Canes would be so much better with TJ there to be the play maker rather than Leger, or to take some of the weight off Love.
Does anyone think he'd take a non-AB contract? I also don't think he'd necessarily be good for a developing 10 because his play would dominate them. Yes he was individually good in SR but that style of play doesn't fit well for the ABs as we saw.
ABs will have to blood a new HB soon as Smith,Perenera and Weber are all getting on in age.You wouldn't want to have to introduce 2 or 3 at once.
no i would much rather have continue to play a guy that has actually cost us games in the past by coming on and fucking shit up.
If he wants to stay in NZ on Super coin, then i will give him mad props. If he wants to dangle "i'll go to league if you don't pay me bro" in front of NZR and then i say get rid.
My Point about Blooding a new HB now,Perenera I don't care either way but pick a new HB in that Squad.
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@chris who? With Fakatava out the others are all stop gap at best.
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@crazy-horse said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@chris who? With Fakatava out the others are all stop gap at best.
Good question, but best to try someone than hope someone comes along, That would stick us in a hole.With 3 old HBs who maybe past it then it doesn't matter, you have to blood maybe 2 or 3 not one then anyway.I would rather try now when we still have Smith playing well.
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@crazy-horse said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@chris who? With Fakatava out the others are all stop gap at best.
Possibly one could grow into the role or even suit Test rugby. If we don't try we're never going to know. But from where I sit, trying is better now than sticking with options that have demonstrated they don't have the temperament.
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@chris At this moment, I don't think they should just "try someone". That devalues the jersey in the same way as giving Brett Cameron a cap. Apart from Fakatava, nobody has played well enough to push Smith, TJP and Weber out of the jersey.
Selection for North v South isn't a great yardstick, because it all depends on where they played their first provincial game and for the North spot there was far more competition. There's also no way that Finlay Christie and TTT have played better this season than Bryn Hall.
If TJP isn't available, I expect them to select Smith, Weber and the Foster fallback, a Chiefs player, so most likely TTT (it should probably be Drummond).
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@stargazer Hall is 29, hardly a selection for the future.
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@bovidae said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@stargazer Hall is 29, hardly a selection for the future.
We don't need to select a player for the next decade. Hall would be perfectly capable of coming off the bench at 32. We're now stuck in a professional era defined by four year cycles. The worst thing about 2019 was we didn't do the three-peat. If we did, the rest of the world might've stated caring about each individual test a bit more.
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@stargazer said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
@chris At this moment, I don't think they should just "try someone". That devalues the jersey in the same way as giving Brett Cameron a cap. Apart from Fakatava, nobody has played well enough to push Smith, TJP and Weber out of the jersey.
Selection for North v South isn't a great yardstick, because it all depends on where they played their first provincial game and for the North spot there was far more competition. There's also no way that Finlay Christie and TTT have played better this season than Bryn Hall.
If TJP isn't available, I expect them to select Smith, Weber and the Foster fallback, a Chiefs player, so most likely TTT (it should probably be Drummond).
If Smith gets injured or TJP doesn't come back(both a possibility) then someone still has to be picked, you are weakening the jersey anyway.Why not select someone while you still have the other options to fall back on.
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@stargazer said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
the Foster fallback, a Chiefs player
jesus i missed this. You want to walk me through the basis for that?
or have you finally worked out this place is mainly chucking out bait for the lolz
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TJP was frustrating because he's obviously a supremely talented athlete, but just didn't have the nous to perform consistently at the highest level. Poor decisions and brain farts became a bit synonymous with his play which you just can't afford in a tight test. On the flipside he did break some tests open by upping the tempo with his running game, including support play, but you just couldn't rely on him to make the right decision all the time.
All that said he's been a great player to have in the mix to keep A Smith honest, and he has been superb in Super rugby in combination with Beauden. Seems like a top bloke off the field as well.
I think he'd go great in League. Much simpler game, chuck him at Hooker where his running and support play will really come to the fore with the extra space you get, and his passing is good enough in that game.
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@no-quarter said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:
TJP was frustrating because he's obviously a supremely talented athlete, but just didn't have the nous to perform consistently at the highest level. Poor decisions and brain farts became a bit synonymous with his play which you just can't afford in a tight test. On the flipside he did break some tests open by upping the tempo with his running game, including support play, but you just couldn't rely on him to make the right decision all the time.
All that said he's been a great player to have in the mix to keep A Smith honest, and he has been superb in Super rugby in combination with Beauden. Seems like a top bloke off the field as well.
I think he'd go great in League. Much simpler game, chuck him at Hooker where his running and support play will really come to the fore with the extra space you get, and his passing is good enough in that game.
Yeah I was one of his staunchest supporters but had to admit he was every colour of shit last year. It’s so frustrating because he has the size and skillset to be a worldclass 9 but he’s just braindead. It’s even more frustrating when seeing him absolutely carve it up for the Canes over the years.
I think he would actually do very well at league but don’t think this is a serious option in the slightest. It’s just a negotiating tactic and I hope they tell him to go fück himself.
