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Fuel levy was a response to years of government inaction on Auckland's transport infrastructure. It was that or a congestion charge or accept continually increasing issues with commute.
Personally I favoured a congestion charge as it only affects those that are helping create the issues i.e. if you live in the boonies or travel outside peak periods you don't pay. Seems more equitable.
@kirwan no sympathy for the oil companies. They're not going broke - yet. My brother works for one and is feeling hard done by because the company slashed his bonus to only just over $200K - cry me a river
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Fuel levy was a response to years of government inaction on Auckland's transport infrastructure. It was that or a congestion charge or accept continually increasing issues with commute.
Personally I favoured a congestion charge as it only affects those that are helping create the issues i.e. if you live in the boonies or travel outside peak periods you don't pay. Seems more equitable.
@kirwan no sympathy for the oil companies. They're not going broke - yet. My brother works for one and is feeling hard done by because the company slashed his bonus to only just over $200K - cry me a river
Never said I had any sympathy for oil companies.
The main point is that this government talks about helping poor people on one hand and takes direct action to make them poorer with the other.
If you are a renter on the average salary, live in Auckland and use a car to travel to work you life is harder under Labour.
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Perhaps if NZ had tax incentives like Norway 50-60% of motorists would stop complaining about the price of petrol..
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/10/norway-electric-cars-majority-sales/ -
@nostrildamus said in NZ Politics:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/10/norway-electric-cars-majority-sales/
Perfect example of a policy that brings about real change. Our lot will probably tax the electric car more than normal and wonder why nobody buys them. But will feel good about it.
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@pakman said in NZ Politics:
Nanaia Mahuta
I saw this a little while ago and thought "How stupid". I've never heard of the fat sheila attempting to play international political games at the adults' table - as unimportant as she is - but I was amused by this accurate aside I read here today about her dimwittery:
"China’s communist regime celebrates Jacinda Ardern’s attempts to drift away from Five Eyes intelligence network – as Beijing heaps praise on the ‘cooperative’ New Zealand leader
It’s just as well that NZ is a completely inconsequential country, or this could be quite serious."
You blokes surely need to elect people into government who have some sort of maturity about them! You won't though.
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@mick-gold-coast-qld said in NZ Politics:
@pakman said in NZ Politics:
Nanaia Mahuta
I saw this a little while ago and thought "How stupid". I've never heard of the fat sheila attempting to play international political games at the adults' table - as unimportant as she is - but I was amused by this accurate aside I read here today about her dimwittery:
*"China’s communist regime celebrates Jacinda Ardern’s attempts to drift away from Five Eyes intelligence network – as Beijing heaps praise on the ‘cooperative’ New Zealand leader
It’s just as well that NZ is a completely inconsequential country, or this could be quite serious."*
You blokes surely need to elect people into government who have some sort of maturity about them! You won't though.
You're pretty hard to read these days Mick.
So just before you get a few new arseholes ripped, you may want to clarify if you're taking the piss or not?
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Interested in how this factors into inflation predictions.
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amazing this gets so little coverage in comparison to what Tiwai was getting given the similar impacts on the communities and the lengths the Govt went to, to keep Rio Tinto in NZ.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
amazing this gets so little coverage in comparison to what Tiwai was getting and the lengths the Govt went to, to keep Rio Tinto in NZ.
It's not so much keeping RT in NZ it's about using/subsidising them to provide work and income in Southland.
Not an ideal situation but IMO it is better to subsidise power and have people in work. Even if it is cost neutral on a purely financial basis the social and long term effects are massive and would eventually land costs somewhere.I am guessing that the Marsden situation also carries the complication that while importing refined fuel will increase import numbers the margin between crude/refined is probably lower than the margin between bauxite/Aluminium.
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@crucial my point is more how the Govt seemed intent on keeping Tiwai open, no matter the cost (which is significant) yet seems very little appetite to do the same for the Refinery, which would be less ongoing cost to the Govt (power subsidies) but similar number of job losses.
The Refinery is or was looking at a massive solar farm as well, but will get better carbon credits by planting some trees in the south island.
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@crucial my point is more how the Govt seemed intent on keeping Tiwai open, no matter the cost (which is significant) yet seems very little appetite to do the same for the Refinery, which would be less ongoing cost to the Govt (power subsidies) but similar number of job losses.
Could be because the Refinery is fundamentally uneconomic now - refining has got much cheaper overseas.
Whereas, Tiwai is only uneconomic because of the formula used for transmission charges. Power cost and everything else stacks up.
I don't know by the way - just spitballing!
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