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@majorrage said in Brexit:
Confusing article this one.
I can't see how this can be anything but a good thing for the UK? Reading through it, it's almost like the author is desepreatly trying to figure out how this is bad for GB, but can't ....
Very tough on Welsh ports
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@mikethesnow How man people can truck rollon/rolloff employ?
And doesn't the extra paperwork offset the reduced physical workload?
Not arguments to your point, more questions.
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Oh the delicious irony
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Ha! You couldn’t make this shit up!
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@mikethesnow said in Brexit:
Oh the delicious irony
Ha, that's worse than the Cornish orchsdist who voted Brexit then demanded the government help him to fly in fruit pickers from EU nations!
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@catogrande said in Brexit:
Ha! You couldn’t make this shit up!
Apparently The Telegraph did - as Tim Martin points out...
“I was trying to be helpful to the journalist by providing up-to-date anecdotal information on staffing, which clearly demonstrated a very positive situation for Wetherspoon. However, my comments were misreported. The false story, expressed in the headline “Wetherspoons boss calls for more EU migration as bars and restaurants tackle staff shortage” and expressed or implied elsewhere in the article, was that Wetherspoon was suffering staff shortages, which clearly isn’t true, and that I had subsequently been moved to change my stance on immigration, which, as my evidence to the parliament several ago clearly shows, isn’t true either.”
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@victor-meldrew surely not! Journalists bending the truth to fit their agenda?!? Colour me shocked.
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@victor-meldrew NZ 1 Wales 0.
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@victor-meldrew NZ 1 Wales 0.
The UK media are streets ahead in the Just Make Shit Up world championships
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@victor-meldrew Tim Martin got seriously mis-quoted at the beginning of the pandemic around telling his staff "to stack shelves at Tesco" too. Maybe the media have something against the mulleted one?
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@catogrande said in Brexit:
@victor-meldrew Tim Martin got seriously mis-quoted at the beginning of the pandemic around telling his staff "to stack shelves at Tesco" too. Maybe the media have something against the mulleted one?
I remember this. I couldn't see the problem with it at all with respect to the misquote or the clarification.
It's basically the CEO of a company saying "I can't pay you at the moment, I'll register you for Furlough but I have no control over the time taken here, so in the meantime if ou find work elsewhere, I'd strongly recommend you take it". He even then promised that staff that did that will have first option to return to Wetherspoons if they liked. He should have been praised for it.
But of course, it's easier to look at his wealth (of which I'm sure most is paper only) and think he should personally sell his shares/assets to give a cash injection into the company so his staff can be paid ...
It was absurd.
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@majorrage said in Brexit:
@catogrande said in Brexit:
@victor-meldrew Tim Martin got seriously mis-quoted at the beginning of the pandemic around telling his staff "to stack shelves at Tesco" too. Maybe the media have something against the mulleted one?
I remember this. I couldn't see the problem with it at all with respect to the misquote or the clarification.
It's basically the CEO of a company saying "I can't pay you at the moment, I'll register you for Furlough but I have no control over the time taken here, so in the meantime if ou find work elsewhere, I'd strongly recommend you take it". He even then promised that staff that did that will have first option to return to Wetherspoons if they liked. He should have been praised for it.
But of course, it's easier to look at his wealth (of which I'm sure most is paper only) and think he should personally sell his shares/assets to give a cash injection into the company so his staff can be paid ...
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But he backed Brexit so he's fair game?
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@victor-meldrew said in Brexit:
But he backed Brexit so he's fair game?
In the eyes of the media that is probably worse but for me the mullet is unforgivable.
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@majorrage said in Brexit:
page 48, bottom right corner I bet ... Fucking media.
Bottom right column third page of business section. Bit like BBC's 'apology' to Dyson.
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Fascinating little debate going on here at the moment.
Due to a few different factors (pandemic, Brexit mainly) there are a few skills shortages in the country. Truck (HGV) driving is probably the biggest one, but also shortages in a lot of the lesser skilled sectors - fruit picking, catering/hospitality, security, warehouse work. I've also been reading that there is a shortage in some finance / accounting work as well, but I'm not inclined to believe that. In turn, this is now pushing wages up in some of those lesser skilled jobs. Thus, you have:
Remain: Brexit, we fucking told you it was a bad idea, this is exactly what we said would happen, this country is fucked, Johnson is a liar and you fell for it, you utter utter morons!
Leave: Um, this is exactly what we voted for. Wages have been repressed at the lower end for years due to uncontrolled immigrants doing these jobs, and now its time for the rate paid for these to catch up.
Left: Wage growth is only going to push prices up and this will obviously hit those on the lower incomes the most. This is such a destructive thing to happen for these families and its going to make it even harder for them when their situation is almost impossible as it is.
Right: They are the ones getting the pay rises, no? If they aren't then perhaps they should look to pick up some of this lucrative work. By the way, we keep hearing about the illegal migrant crisis, so instead of these guys being a drain, why don't we make them work in some of these jobs and actually earn money / contribute to the economy.
It's fascinating stuff & Brexit is proving to be quite the social experiment most people thought it would be.
@Victor-Meldrew quite interested in your thoughts on this one!
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@majorrage said in Brexit:
Fascinating little debate going on here at the moment.
Due to a few different factors (pandemic, Brexit mainly) there are a few skills shortages in the country. Truck (HGV) driving is probably the biggest one, but also shortages in a lot of the lesser skilled sectors - fruit picking, catering/hospitality, security, warehouse work. I've also been reading that there is a shortage in some finance / accounting work as well, but I'm not inclined to believe that. In turn, this is now pushing wages up in some of those lesser skilled jobs. Thus, you have:
Remain: Brexit, we fucking told you it was a bad idea, this is exactly what we said would happen, this country is fucked, Johnson is a liar and you fell for it, you utter utter morons!
Leave: Um, this is exactly what we voted for. Wages have been repressed at the lower end for years due to uncontrolled immigrants doing these jobs, and now its time for the rate paid for these to catch up.
Left: Wage growth is only going to push prices up and this will obviously hit those on the lower incomes the most. This is such a destructive thing to happen for these families and its going to make it even harder for them when their situation is almost impossible as it is.
Right: They are the ones getting the pay rises, no? If they aren't then perhaps they should look to pick up some of this lucrative work. By the way, we keep hearing about the illegal migrant crisis, so instead of these guys being a drain, why don't we make them work in some of these jobs and actually earn money / contribute to the economy.
It's fascinating stuff & Brexit is proving to be quite the social experiment most people thought it would be.
@Victor-Meldrew quite interested in your thoughts on this one!
You forgot one important aspect about the left leaning remainers, they also want to remain within a couple of miles from where they were born and expect the jobs to come to them
Kent may as well be in Australia as far as they are concerned
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