Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car
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@virgil said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@taniwharugby said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@booboo start with safety and go from there.
A guy who delivers to our work was involved in a car accident last week.
He and his mrs own a 2018 Suzuki Swift. It was rear ended by a driver in a big SUV.
The shocking thing is he found out his car has only a 1 Star safety rating, 1 out of 5.How the fuck does a modern car these days get away with a 1 star rating. Its like you have a better chance at survival if a car hit you while you were walking on the road.
Do check the individual model variant's safety rating though. I don't know the Oz situation that much but it pisses me off that the ACC premium on our Swift is judged on the Oz safety rating which is generic for all Swifts and dragged down by the really cheap models made as little shopping carts. One of the buying decisions for us was that the model we choose has the full intrusion bars and multiple airbags throughout.
Yep, being small it will come off worse against a bigger vehicle but it also isn't the tin can that the cheaper ones are. -
@crucial said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@virgil said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@taniwharugby said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@booboo start with safety and go from there.
A guy who delivers to our work was involved in a car accident last week.
He and his mrs own a 2018 Suzuki Swift. It was rear ended by a driver in a big SUV.
The shocking thing is he found out his car has only a 1 Star safety rating, 1 out of 5.How the fuck does a modern car these days get away with a 1 star rating. Its like you have a better chance at survival if a car hit you while you were walking on the road.
Do check the individual model variant's safety rating though. I don't know the Oz situation that much but it pisses me off that the ACC premium on our Swift is judged on the Oz safety rating which is generic for all Swifts and dragged down by the really cheap models made as little shopping carts. One of the buying decisions for us was that the model we choose has the full intrusion bars and multiple airbags throughout.
Yep, being small it will come off worse against a bigger vehicle but it also isn't the tin can that the cheaper ones are.Can understand how it came off 2nd best with a larger car, it gave his car an almighty shove too. He was saying how luck he was not to be pushed into on coming traffic.
Im just amazed how a late model car, a popular one too, has such a low star rating,The govt here are wanking on about EV's and pushing petrol cars out of the market. I would have thought safe cars would be more of a priority.
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@virgil said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@crucial said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@virgil said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@taniwharugby said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@booboo start with safety and go from there.
A guy who delivers to our work was involved in a car accident last week.
He and his mrs own a 2018 Suzuki Swift. It was rear ended by a driver in a big SUV.
The shocking thing is he found out his car has only a 1 Star safety rating, 1 out of 5.How the fuck does a modern car these days get away with a 1 star rating. Its like you have a better chance at survival if a car hit you while you were walking on the road.
Do check the individual model variant's safety rating though. I don't know the Oz situation that much but it pisses me off that the ACC premium on our Swift is judged on the Oz safety rating which is generic for all Swifts and dragged down by the really cheap models made as little shopping carts. One of the buying decisions for us was that the model we choose has the full intrusion bars and multiple airbags throughout.
Yep, being small it will come off worse against a bigger vehicle but it also isn't the tin can that the cheaper ones are.Can understand how it came off 2nd best with a larger car, it gave his car an almighty shove too. He was saying how luck he was not to be pushed into on coming traffic.
Im just amazed how a late model car, a popular one too, has such a low star rating,The govt here are wanking on about EV's and pushing petrol cars out of the market. I would have thought safe cars would be more of a priority.
For the AA (NZ) explanation see here https://www.aa.co.nz/cars/ask-an-expert/buying-selling/show/12233/
My guess is that while Oz doesn't do used Jap imports they may be importing and selling the base models.
Pretty sure that we have new rules around bringing low safety cars in now.
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@virgil said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@crucial said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@virgil said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@taniwharugby said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@booboo start with safety and go from there.
A guy who delivers to our work was involved in a car accident last week.
He and his mrs own a 2018 Suzuki Swift. It was rear ended by a driver in a big SUV.
The shocking thing is he found out his car has only a 1 Star safety rating, 1 out of 5.How the fuck does a modern car these days get away with a 1 star rating. Its like you have a better chance at survival if a car hit you while you were walking on the road.
Do check the individual model variant's safety rating though. I don't know the Oz situation that much but it pisses me off that the ACC premium on our Swift is judged on the Oz safety rating which is generic for all Swifts and dragged down by the really cheap models made as little shopping carts. One of the buying decisions for us was that the model we choose has the full intrusion bars and multiple airbags throughout.
Yep, being small it will come off worse against a bigger vehicle but it also isn't the tin can that the cheaper ones are.Can understand how it came off 2nd best with a larger car, it gave his car an almighty shove too. He was saying how luck he was not to be pushed into on coming traffic.
Im just amazed how a late model car, a popular one too, has such a low star rating,The govt here are wanking on about EV's and pushing petrol cars out of the market. I would have thought safe cars would be more of a priority.
I'm not surprised. I got t-boned by a Swift driven by a nice lady last year. She was turning out of her driveway and I was driving past so she wouldn't have been going any more than 30km/h I imagine. She hit me right on my front wheel so I needed a new fender panel and bumper, and a new steering rack. Her car was completely arseholed.
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came in to recommend the Swift as i always hear good things...have read the thread and realise its more complicated than that...so i'll see myself out
only other thing i'll add, use to be a big Mazda fan, had a 2007 mazda 3 for several years, but when we went to replace it, it seems the last couple of generations are pretty overpriced. we wanted to move up to an SUV (Ski Road so AWD) and the mid size AWD SUV's were the same or similar money to Subaru AWD's, which i was surprised at given Subaru's history with AWD's
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Had to borrow a Swift for a few days while my car was being serviced. Rather embarrassingly being so used to reversing cameras I backed into a rubbish bin ( soft plastic so no damage done luckily ) within half an hour of driving it.
I think the Swift is quite possibly the unmanliest car on earth, perfect for a teenage girls first car.
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@bovidae said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@mn5 said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
I think the Swift is quite possibly the unmanliest car on earth, perfect for a teenage girls first car.
They are popular with boy racers who know what a clutch is.
This was an automatic
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@mn5 said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
I think the Swift is quite possibly the unmanliest car on earth, perfect for a teenage girls first car.
care to re think that
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redbook could be useful. Some cars in Oz retain value longer than others, it used to be Toyota Corolla as best value, as it used to be not only cheap, servicing cheap, parts never a problem but even resale was very good. Dont know how accurate now. From memory quite a few of the smaller ones that had a 5 star ancap rating were Mazda2, WV golf polo, hyundai i30, kia seltos etc.. Over here the koreans also have 7year warranties and servicing, but that is becoming more main line for a few others now too.
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@kiwiwomble said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@mn5 said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
I think the Swift is quite possibly the unmanliest car on earth, perfect for a teenage girls first car.
care to re think that
Does it come in pink ?
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@antipodean said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
The ultimate shaggin’ wagon.
Need to budget for the mattress in the back and the accidents may make life rather than take them. -
@mn5 said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@virgil said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
Was that the one where he designed that car and bankrupted his half brother ?
That's it.
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@booboo With Japanese I mean Australian new Japanese cars. Korean cars have come along way too, so probably just as good.
With respect to hill driving / power, the same applies if your daughter is likely to spend a bit of time on the 100kph roads. A lot of small city cars which teenage girls really like (Fiat 500 etc) are not designed for highway driving. They can of course do it comfortably, but you'll be safer is something a bit larger. A cracking way to demonstrate this is to compare the Mazda 2 to the Mazda 3. Take both of them up to 100kph and then ask yourself which one you'd want your daughter to be driving at those speeds.
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@majorrage said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
@booboo With Japanese I mean Australian new Japanese cars. Korean cars have come along way too, so probably just as good.
With respect to hill driving / power, the same applies if your daughter is likely to spend a bit of time on the 100kph roads. A lot of small city cars which teenage girls really like (Fiat 500 etc) are not designed for highway driving. They can of course do it comfortably, but you'll be safer is something a bit larger. A cracking way to demonstrate this is to compare the Mazda 2 to the Mazda 3. Take both of them up to 100kph and then ask yourself which one you'd want your daughter to be driving at those speeds.
We have a Mazda 3 great car good on the highway great safety and more importantly fuel economy
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Speaking mostly new, but obviously look around for a dealer demo if you can:
Kia Rio - 5 stars ANCAP, they pack loads of toys into them as well. 7 year warranty so will get her through to her next car without issue. Automatic starting at $21,490 in your neck of the woods. Add $2k to get the Sport model with nicer wheels and a couple of bits.
The next model up (Cerato) we bought for the wife 2.5 years ago in the Sport+ configuration @ $26k. Reverse camera, shitloads of sensors, Rear Cross Alert, along with Apple and Android compatibility. TBH I was impressed with the features, and when we found a weird noise with the power steering it was fully covered and replaced quickly.
In the same vein you could look at Hyundai i30 from but entry cost is higher. Shares a lot of DNA with the Kia Cerato in terms of size and features.
Toyota Corolla or Yaris is an option but TBH I've stepped away from Toyota because the service costs were fucking bonkers for what is supposed to be a very reliable brand. That may have changed since last I owned one of course, but they're also fluffybunnies for not investing more heavily in EVs
Nissan look to have stepped away from any sort of small car except the Leaf in this market, but second hand they're still around.
I like the Mazda 3 - again it is a little higher in cost but their feature list is good. Has Instagram cred.
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@nta said in Cars - advice for Parents for teenager's first car:
Speaking mostly new, but obviously look around for a dealer demo if you can:
Kia Rio - 5 stars ANCAP, they pack loads of toys into them as well. 7 year warranty so will get her through to her next car without issue. Automatic starting at $21,490 in your neck of the woods. Add $2k to get the Sport model with nicer wheels and a couple of bits.
The next model up (Cerato) we bought for the wife 2.5 years ago in the Sport+ configuration @ $26k. Reverse camera, shitloads of sensors, Rear Cross Alert, along with Apple and Android compatibility. TBH I was impressed with the features, and when we found a weird noise with the power steering it was fully covered and replaced quickly.
In the same vein you could look at Hyundai i30 from but entry cost is higher. Shares a lot of DNA with the Kia Cerato in terms of size and features.
Toyota Corolla or Yaris is an option but TBH I've stepped away from Toyota because the service costs were fucking bonkers for what is supposed to be a very reliable brand. That may have changed since last I owned one of course, but they're also fluffybunnies for not investing more heavily in EVs
Nissan look to have stepped away from any sort of small car except the Leaf in this market, but second hand they're still around.
I like the Mazda 3 - again it is a little higher in cost but their feature list is good. Has Instagram cred.
The Nissan Note is probably the best little car going around. You'd love it - they have this in Australia?
Here is the old version:
I've spent heaps of time in them as they are the most common car sharing car here. Basic but does everything right and you can go a long way in them (I made a couple of 1000km+ trips in them).
