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    bayimports
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    Just revisited super (2010). Takes a guy who is borderline nuff nuff, who becomes a superhero (with no powers) to save his wife. Awkward, dark and violent but some very funny moments. Rain Wilson was made for the character and Ellen ( now Elliot) Page also very funny.

    4 crimson bolts out of 5 fingers of god

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    @bayimports said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    Just revisited super (2010). Takes a guy who is borderline nuff nuff, who becomes a superhero (with no powers) to save his wife. Awkward, dark and violent but some very funny moments. Rain Wilson was made for the character and Ellen ( now Elliot) Page also very funny.

    4 crimson bolts out of 5 fingers of god

    I had struggled to find, ahem, a copy of this movie for years as I wanted to see it. Now I see it’s streaming on one of the platforms I have so definitely keen to finally watch it.

    I think it’s directed by James Gunn?

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    @nepia said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @bayimports said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    Just revisited super (2010). Takes a guy who is borderline nuff nuff, who becomes a superhero (with no powers) to save his wife. Awkward, dark and violent but some very funny moments. Rain Wilson was made for the character and Ellen ( now Elliot) Page also very funny.

    4 crimson bolts out of 5 fingers of god

    I had struggled to find, ahem, a copy of this movie for years as I wanted to see it. Now I see it’s streaming on one of the platforms I have so definitely keen to finally watch it.

    I think it’s directed by James Gunn?

    Yes, he also acts in it, currently on Stan if you’re still looking

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    What's up with Bruce Willis churning out shite-tier movies? Does he owe the IRS money or something?

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    @tim said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    What's up with Bruce Willis churning out shite-tier movies? Does he owe the IRS money or something?

    Not sure. Demi would have a bit of cash from her own awful movies one would assume so alimony wouldn’t be an issue. @Kruse can you remind us where Bruce sits on the shit movie star list ( compared to John Travolta, Liam Neeson and Nicholas Cage )

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    @kruse said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @mn5 said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @nepia said in Re: Movie review thread...:

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    The Poison Rose (released internationally as Eye for an Eye) is a 2019 American thriller film starring John Travolta and Morgan Freeman. The film was directed by George Gallo and Francesco Cinquemani.

    So, so fucken bad, that I couldn't press stop. What a cast! All performing without an ounce of talent in a completely ridiculously formulaic yet bizarre script.

    I don't even know how to rate it.

    @kruse, please do your best.

    Okay. So... yeah.
    The Poison Rose
    Firstly, the most important bit:

    • Tit-watch: zero. But some spectacular cleavage. Jeez I do love some inside-of-boob. I also like outside-of-boob and under-boob, but this movie - you're just getting inside-of-boob.

    And then the other bits...

    • Opening scene: an old-school theatre sign displaying "The Maltese Falcon"
      This is apropos of nothing, other than saying "this is going to be SOOO film noir
    • Opening voice-over... I shit you not:

    My name is Carson Phillips, I'm a PI. I like to drink, I like to smoke, I like to gamble.
    Sometimes a little too much. But you know what they say... 'Everything in moderation, including moderation'

    • And THEN the heavy-handed-ness starts, for a good ten minutes of "this is fucking film-noir, you fluffybunnies!"
    • Oh, and Brendan Fraser appears. He's heard of "Beer and Pie July"... he heard of it several years ago. And his calendar's faulty.
    • And then an hour of pretty much just nothing. Just... take a nap through this bit if you like
    • A big "reveal" (spoiler) - the protagonist has an adult daughter. So upon them realising this, there's a scene where he pretty much assumes she's a 7-year old. "Here's how to eat a donut". Fuck. Just... fuck.
    • There's a gunfight in the football stadium. Hero has a revolver, tries using it against a guy in the commentary box with a sniper rifle. No luck, funnily enough. Uses the tackle-pads (bullet-proof) as a shield, until remembering he used to be a famous quarterback, so... use a football as a weapon! Awesome.
    • Immediately into next action-scene/gunfight. No words for this.
    • Closing voice-over, I shit you not:

    I wasn't in a hurry to go home. Then I realised... I already was.

    Fuck you John Travolta. Fuck you slightly less @bones for making me watch this.
    1.5 attempts at a modern jaded P.I. from 5 unresolved storylines.
    About 1.25 of those points were for the cleavage. It really was quite pretty.

    This sounds even worse than I am Wrath. Good to see Travolta not settling and plunging even deeper into shit movies than before.

    I’m sure Neeson, Cage and Willis will see this and try to outdo him.

    Neeson really doesn't deserve to be lumped in with those three. All his action variants are watchable and they all do decent box office. Those other two are just making cheap DTV (or VOD/DTS these days I guess).

    If you want a fourth then John Cusack appears to be your guy, which is odd as he always seemed to be more of a character actor with a few leading roles.

    If anything he’s the worst of the lot. I sometimes can’t believe he’s the same guy who gave us such an amazing performance in Schindlers List.

    Nah, we'll likely have to agree to disagree.

    The others just make crap DTV.

    Neeson makes varying quality action films (but all with decent budgets), which he mixes with other more dramatic roles (Made in Italy, Silence etc).

    I’ll give you some of that but most of his recent actions flicks seem like bad “Taken” rip offs with the same tired “retired guy with skills” cliche.

    I guess the point I’m making is to me he seems to have fallen the furtherest out of that bunch.

    As i said we have to agree to disagree as I don't think he's fallen nearly as far as the other three. Cage has an Oscar, Willis was one of the biggest stars of the late 80s/90s, and Travolta was a huge star at probably two points of his career.

    They're all making low budget churn out stuff now. Neeson is making proper studio action films that mostly do good box office and in between time works on studio and indie dramas/animation etc.

    Have you seen all of his action films since Taken? I've seen a fair few and they're not all just Taken rip offs aside from having Neeson as an action hero. And some are good.

    Na not all of them but in true fern fashion I’m making judgements anyway 😉

    I do take your point actually, the other three had their moments. Willis was great in the Sixth sense, Cage in Leaving Las Vegas and Travolta in Saturday Night Fever to name a few. Obviously BW and JT were brilliant in Pulp Fiction together as well.

    So yeah, I’ll tar all four with the same brush for some of the shit they do now 😉

    According to MetaCritic...
    John Travolta

    • High: Pulp Fiction (98)
    • Low: Two of a Kind (5)
    • Noteworthy - this man has also done Battlefield Earth. Yet that's NOT considered his worst movie
    • Of late: The Fanatic (18) - plays a fan obsessed with an action movie star. The Poison Rose (26) - as reviewed already. Trading Paint (34) - father vs son car racing.

    Bruce Willis

    • High: Pulp Fiction (94)
    • Low: Cosmic Sin (9)
    • Noteworthy: In his peak, obviously also did Die Hards, etc
    • Of late: Cosmic Sin (9) - as reviewed on TSF. Breach (no MetaScore yet, but users rate it worse than Cosmic Sin). Hard Kill (no MetaScore yet - but I've seen it. It is not good. (I thought I'd done a review, but can't find it__

    Nicolas Cage

    • High: Adaptation (83) (ignoring voice-credit for Spiderverse)
    • Low: Left Behind (12)
    • Noteworthy - I guess we'd consider prime Cage to be Leaving Las Vegas, Face-Off/etc - so around a score of 82
    • Of late: Jiu Jitsu (27) - pretty much what it says on the tin, I assume. Grand Isle (29) - suspense/thriller where "all manner of suspicion and seduction ensues", according to one review. Primal (32) - an assassin and a jaguar are caged up on the same boat... until they aren't (I need to watch this).
    • NB: I cheated a little with Cage, and ignored two higher rated recent releases - Willy's Wonderland (44) - Meet the Feebles with Cage and horror; & Color Out Of Space (70) - alien causes people to trip-out. I ignored both these, as they are clearly both just ridiculous premises to allow Cage to go absolutely bat-shit over the top pure-Nicolas-Cage.

    Liam Neeson

    • High: Schindler's List (94)
    • Low: Taken 3 (26)
    • Noteworthy - as far as action movies go, we'd probably rate his peak as Taken? Which ranks a lowly 51 MetaScore anyway. Darkman is higher, at 65
    • Of late: The Ice Road (42) - Liam Neeson drives a truck across ice. The Marksman (44) - Liam Neeson plays a Marksman, who never uses his unique skills as a Marksman (reviewed here, I think?). Honest Thief (46) - a thief, but who's a good guy - honest, is forced to use his unique skills to save himself from corrupt cops, or some shit.

    The numbers seem to support the defence of Neeson. He never really did anything great, other than Schindler's List. And his recent dross is nowhere near the depths of shit the others have fallen to.
    Travolta - also never really flew that high, but his lows... wow... they're low.
    Willis - probably has the longest fall, from the highest of highs, to the lowest of lows.
    Cage - his action highs were pretty generic Bruckheimer nonsense. His lows, pretty bad, but not Willis-level pure-shit.

    And with that - I've wasted my Sunday afternoon, and unfortunately identified a whole heap of shit movies I feel obliged to watch.

    Here you go. I haven't forced myself to watch Breach starring Bruce Willis yet, and it still doesn't have a MetaScore, but it does have a MetaCritic User-rating of 0.8, and IMDB rating of 3.1.
    Fuck it - downloading now...

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    @kruse

    Can you not apply a credit in the bank rating? Willis would have a pretty good credit balance to begin with, Travolta less so and Cage was pretty much on a nil balance to start with.

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    @catogrande said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @kruse

    Can you not apply a credit in the bank rating? Willis would have a pretty good credit balance to begin with, Travolta less so and Cage was pretty much on a nil balance to start with.

    Are you using Die Hard 1-3 as credit to balance out everything? 😉

    Cage has got a pretty good balance too with Face Off, Leaving Las Vegas, The Rock, Con Air etc.

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    @catogrande said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @kruse

    Can you not apply a credit in the bank rating? Willis would have a pretty good credit balance to begin with, Travolta less so and Cage was pretty much on a nil balance to start with.

    Saturday Night Fever is a bona fide fucken classic and Raising Arizona is great fun too.

    Willis did nothing of that standard apart from Die Hard and Pulp Fiction ( which of course raises Travoltas rating too )

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    Willis was in plenty of action movies as good as the Cage movies @nepia listed, and I like those. The Sixth Sense is a good movie too. A negative for Armageddon though.

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    @bovidae said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    Willis was in plenty of action movies as good as the Cage movies @nepia listed, and I like those. The Sixth Sense is a good movie too. A negative for Armageddon though.

    When I think of Willis and Travolta it makes me admire Quentin Tarantino even more than I do. His ability to get the best out of forgotten/unknown actors is extraordinary.

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    @bovidae

    Sin city, Last Boy Scout, unbreakable, 12 monkeys, Ally McBeal

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    @catogrande Pass on that last one. 🙂

    Add in The Fifth Element and Tears of the Sun.

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    @bovidae said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @catogrande Pass on that last one. 🙂 all of them

    Add in The Fifth Element and Tears of the Sun.

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    @nepia I'm pretty sure in one of those Taken sequels Neeson looked as dangerous as Frank Spencer. An old, frail Frank Spencer.

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    @mn5 I was prepared to let Saturday Night Fever go, but nah.

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    @raznomore said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @mn5 little known whimpy lead, Jason Mamoa, visionary director....

    The big give away is Jason Mamoa. He generally attaches himself to utter shit.

    I see your Jason Mamoa and I raise a recent Temuera Morrison in return. Hell, even an Amber Heard.
    Put them together with Nicole Kidman and you have a ham and cheese casserole. Without much casserole. God, Aquaman was so bad...

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    @nostrildamus said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @nepia I'm pretty sure in one of those Taken sequels Neeson looked as dangerous as Frank Spencer. An old, frail Frank Spencer.

    Taken 3. The arthritis years.

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    @mn5 said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @catogrande said in Re: Movie review thread...:

    @kruse

    Can you not apply a credit in the bank rating? Willis would have a pretty good credit balance to begin with, Travolta less so and Cage was pretty much on a nil balance to start with.

    Saturday Night Fever is a bona fide fucken classic and Raising Arizona is great fun too.

    Willis did nothing of that standard apart from Die Hard and Pulp Fiction ( which of course raises Travoltas rating too )

    Fifth Element is great.

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  • KruseK Offline
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    Breach - with Bruce Willis as a supporting actor behind... Cody Kearsley.

    • Titwatch: zero
    • shite
    • Just: boring shite.
    • Not B-grade or C-grade shite, but interesting... just boring C-grade shite
    • Bruce Willis as an apparent "bad-ass" - but literally stands still and just watches other people get fucked up in the first few "action scenes". Just stands, and watches, as if rating the action.
    • One character commands the elite team to "Watch your six" - and then everybody stares ahead without a single glance behind
    • Above nitpicking point - the only interesting thing to nit-pick about... it's just so bland, I can't even choose interesting things to complain about

    0 nothing-interestings out of 5 cant-think-of-anythings.

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