The Trans Tasman Rugby War
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@tim said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@mariner4life said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
Acknowledge they're shit. Acknowledge they hate us.
Cut them loose.
Play a Bledisloe every 3 years. Which they lose by 60 because apparently Shute Shield isn't good enough
Laugh
Fuck 'em, who cares
Our five pro teams have regular "boys on the booze" flair ups, but we still absolutely flog them. They're about the 7th best team in the world.
We're bound by geography though, and it will never change. Hopefully their group of dumb assholes will by a clue in the next decade.
Ya reckon they will? Even at their peak RA preferred to pay over the odds for league converts instead of spending the money to develop the game at the grass roots level. That's not a viable longterm strategy
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@tim said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
These are the new franchises:
Northland and North Harbour
Auckland
Counties and BOP
Waikato and Taranaki
> Manawatu and Hawkes Bay
Wellington
Ta$man
Canterbury
Otago and Southland
Moana PasifikaYou'll be right behind this.
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@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
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Given the chance, Aus would fuck over NZ without giving it a seconds thought. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Ultimately you have to do what's in your own interests. Japan is where we should be focussing all our efforts.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
Given the chance, Aus would fuck over NZ without giving it a seconds thought. Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Ultimately you have to do what's in your own interests. Japan is where we should be focussing all our efforts.
Agree. Oz have form in that regard
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@taniwharugby said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
Well both teams are north of Auckland, they could call it something like … I dunno … North Auckland? 🤔
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@jc said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@taniwharugby said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@gt12 someone had to do it.
I'd hate losing Northland, but if merging was the only way we survived and part of something, I'd grudgingly get over it and go along screaming and.bitching to watch Northland Harbour play..but we know nzr won't make any changes so drastic.
Well both teams are north of Auckland, they could call it something like … I dunno … North Auckland? 🤔
North of, not northern part of. So no.
The NotJAFA Taniwhas would be better
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The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
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@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I agree that we need each other. But we can't depend on them, they don't want to be a team player
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@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
From the point of view of having a bigger product to sell to broadcasters, SA NZ and RA need each other
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@gt12 said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@tim said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
These are the new franchises:
Northland and North Harbour
Auckland
Counties and BOP
Waikato and Taranaki
> Manawatu and Hawkes Bay
Wellington
Ta$man
Canterbury
Otago and Southland
Moana PasifikaYou'll be right behind this.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
Do we though? I agree that cooperation is best for both parties, at least from a content standpoint. But I don't think we need them.
i think the NPC would always tick along...but it would never make enough money on its own to compete with what the players could get overseas so we would see more and more drift away
a TT or pacific comp probably earns enough to at least keep a core of the top players in the region
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@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
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@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
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@canefan said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
for their own good, do we actually need to take the NRL/NBL approach...and just invited aussie teams to join a new "domestic" comp, a couple fo breakaway teams and RA would probably fall into line with re focusing on a domestic comp
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@kiwiwomble said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@canefan said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@antipodean said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
@damo said in The Trans Ta$man Rugby War:
The idea we won't keep cooperating with Australia is daft in my opinion.
We need them and they need us. All this posturing from Australia is unhelpful, but we can't just ditch them.
For a long time, Australia had replaced SA as our primary foes. We cannot forget that just because Australia are going through a downswing.
Just playing NPC would be dull, and most casual fans wouldn't be interested. You can't just ignore the casual fans.
I just wonder how long we stay in an abusive relationship where it's not clear the other party is actually bringing anything positive to it.
Regularly getting flogged has seen it turn very nasty and of the fans that haven't walked away from the game, a growing number are fucking delusional.
Perhaps if they tried to fix their domestic game they might become more competitive in the tests?
for their own good, do we actually need to take the NRL/NBL approach...and just invited aussie teams to join a new "domestic" comp, a couple fo breakaway teams and RA would probably fall into line with re focusing on a domestic comp
They are too proud for that. Look how they rail about the idea of fewer aussie teams in a combined comp
