Coronavirus - Overall
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As I don't listen to the Joe Rogan show anymore I'm unfamiliar how Ivermectin is used, can someone enlighten me? I actually have two tubes of the cream from a prescription for Rosacea (mostly unused as it didn't work for me, Rozex does the job), I wonder how much I can get for it on Gumtree (for those not in the know Gumtree is Oz's shit kinfd of version of Trademe)?
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Overall:
As I don't listen to the Joe Rogan show anymore I'm unfamiliar how Ivermectin is used, can someone enlighten me? I actually have two tubes of the cream from a prescription for Rosacea (mostly unused as it didn't work for me, Rozex does the job), I wonder how much I can get for it on Gumtree (for those not in the know Gumtree is Oz's shit kinfd of version of Trademe)?
If cream, try spreading it on bread and butter ...? The alternative is more "intrusive" but works better.
(for Chr_st sake don't take me sh_tposting seriously please! )
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I cant find the one i read previously, but https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8209939/
That's a positive one on the front page of google. There is also less positive ones on the front page so yea
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@muddyriver That study includes the fraudulent Egyptian study (Elgazzar) that heavily influenced early meta-analysis reports.
That study was probably just made up. My guess is that someone took out options on Ivermectin producers, then posted it to a preprint server (it never went through the peer review process).
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@muddyriver Tim and I are on the same page.
To be fair, some serious Ivermectin trials are being run, like this PRINCIPLE one in the UK calling for 5000 volunteers ... (https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-06-23-ivermectin-be-investigated-possible-treatment-covid-19-oxford-s-principle-trial)
Looks like UK PRINCIPLE are also trialling Favipiravir, an antiviral drug (I have no background on it - yet to read up).
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@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow had a fever for a day and it was not the out of control type. 100 to 100.5. How was yours? Ice baths?
No
Best sleep of my life - 8 to 9 hrs undisturbed- but each time I woke it felt as if Iâd pissed the bed
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow had a fever for a day and it was not the out of control type. 100 to 100.5. How was yours? Ice baths?
No
Best sleep of my life - 8 to 9 hrs undisturbed- but each time I woke it felt as if Iâd pissed the bed
Thatâs funny. Youâre right. I slept like a baby for a couple of days as well. Who needs time off to rest when you have Covid.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow had a fever for a day and it was not the out of control type. 100 to 100.5. How was yours? Ice baths?
No
Best sleep of my life - 8 to 9 hrs undisturbed- but each time I woke it felt as if Iâd pissed the bed
All in all quite satisfying then.
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@mikethesnow had a fever for a day and it was not the out of control type. 100 to 100.5. How was yours? Ice baths?
No
Best sleep of my life - 8 to 9 hrs undisturbed- but each time I woke it felt as if Iâd pissed the bed
As opposed to the other nights when you actually had pissed the bed.
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I donât get the freakout. Iâve been vaccinated twice. If the vaccine actually works, then I donât give a ratsass what anybody else does. if a foxy unvaccinated young nubile wanted to get it on with me, I wouldnât think twice. Sorry.
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@kid-chocolate I thought it was an amusing rant. Sorry
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^^ That looks bad.
But if change to include other micro-states. Can see that the wave is typically steeper if measure against a small population. (although French Polynesia is bigger than San Marino, Gibraltar etc by factor of about 10, and has natural barriers in country between regions)
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Bulgaria, EUâs least vaccinated nation, faces deadly surge
By STEPHEN McGRATH
September 9, 2021Bulgaria, EUâs least vaccinated nation, faces deadly surge
By STEPHEN McGRATH
September 9, 2021
Yordanka Minekova, the chief vaccination nurse holds a container of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine at the state hospital in Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria, Thursday, Sept. 2, 2021. Despite one of the European Union's highest death rates from COVID-19, and as the country faces a rapid surge of infections due to the Delta variant, people in the Balkan nation are proving the most hesitant in the 27-country bloc to get vaccinated against COVID-19. (AP Photo/Andreea Alexandru)
Yordanka Minekova, the chief vaccination nurse holds a container of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine at the state hospital in Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria, Thursday, Sept. 2, 2021. Despite one of the European Union's highest death rates from COVID-19, and as the country faces a rapid surge of infections due to the Delta variant, people in the Balkan nation are proving the most hesitant in the 27-country bloc to get vaccinated against COVID-19.
Standing outside the rundown public hospital in Bulgariaâs northern town of Veliko Tarnovo, the vaccination unitâs chief nurse voices a sad reality about her fellow citizens: âThey donât believe in vaccines.â
Bulgaria has one of the highest coronavirus death rates in the 27-nation European Union and is facing a new, rapid surge of infections due to the more infectious delta variant. Despite that, people in this Balkan nation are the most hesitant in the bloc to get vaccinated against COVID-19.
Only 20% of adults in Bulgaria, which has a population of 7 million, have so far been fully vaccinated. That puts it last in the EU, which has an average of 69 % fully vaccinated.
âWe are open every day,â Yordanka Minekova, the chief vaccination nurse who has worked at the hospital for 35 years, told The Associated Press. âBut people who want to be vaccinated are very few.â
Krasimira Nikolova, a 52-year-old restaurant worker, has chosen not to get vaccinated, saying she has doubts over the vaccinesâ effectiveness, even though the shots have been shown to be highly effective in preventing serious illness and deaths.
âI donât believe vaccines work,â she told the AP. âI already had the virus. I donât believe itâs so dangerous.â
But Sibila Marinova, manager of Veliko Tarnovoâs intensive care unit, says the full COVID-19 ICU ward in her hospital shows thatâs simply not true.
â100% of the ICU patients are unvaccinated,â she told the AP, adding that staff shortages are only piling on more pressure.
And she said sheâs angry that so many Bulgarians are refusing to get jabbed.
Bulgaria has access to all four of the vaccines approved by the EU â Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Johnson & Johnson. But since the start of the pandemic, more than 19,000 people in Bulgaria have died of COVID-19, the EUâs third-highest death rate, behind only the Czech Republic and Hungary. In the last week, an average of 41 people have died each day.
In response, the government imposed tighter restrictions Tuesday. Restaurants and cafes must close at 11 p.m. and their tables are limited to six people. Nightclubs have been shuttered and cinemas and theaters are limited to half capacity. Outdoors sports arenas are limited to 30% capacity.
âThe low vaccination rate forces us to impose these measures,â Health Minister Stoycho Katsarov said.
Despite being in a vulnerable age group, 71-year-old retiree Zhelyazko Marinov doesnât want to get vaccinated.
âI think Iâm healthy enough and have a good natural immunity,â he said, adding that he could be persuaded to get vaccinated if he couldnât travel without a vaccine certificate.
Mariya Sharkova, a public health law specialist, believes that Bulgariaâs worryingly low vaccine uptake is the result of residentsâ low trust in official institutions, along with fake news about the shots, political instability and a weak national vaccination campaign.
âIn Bulgaria, we donât have good health literacy,â she told the AP. âMany people choose to believe conspiracy theories and fake news.â
Only vaccines that are mandatory in Bulgaria â such as measles, mumps and rubella â have a high uptake. Sharkova said some blame has to lie with the governmentâs vaccination program.
âThey didnât build any strategy on how to fight vaccine hesitancy,â she said. âWe didnât have any real information campaign for the vaccines. The ministry of health relies mainly on announcements on the ministryâs website, and I donât think anyone actually goes on and reads it.â
âThe best policy for such hesitant countries and populations as ours are mandatory vaccines,â said Sharkova, who is dismayed that national TV channels often invite vaccine-skeptic doctors to be on their programs.
But making COVID-19 vaccines mandatory could risk further polarizing the issue, she said.
Hriska Zhelyazkova, a 67-year-old military officer from the coastal city of Burgas, says she distrusts vaccines because âthey were created so quicklyâ -- apparently unaware that years of research laid the groundwork for the vaccine shots, which now have been used in hundreds of millions of people with exceedingly rare serious side effects.
Still, she said she may get vaccinated if authorities slap tougher restrictions on unvaccinated people.
Back at the Veliko Tarnovo hospital, pro-vaccination drawings colored by children hang on the walls. âYou are our superheroes,â one caption read.
But Minekova, the vaccination nurse, isnât optimistic about the future.
âSomehow, I think itâs too late,â she said. âThe right moment has been missed. I donât see a way right now to solve this.â
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I thought I had a handle on this but I'm more confused that ever
Help please
Person A who is non-vaccinated 'gives' COVID-19 to Person B who is also non-vaccinated
Person A who is non-vaccinated 'gives' COVID-19 to Person C who is vaccinated
Person C who is vaccinated 'gives' COVID-19 to Person D who is vaccinated
Person C who is vaccinated 'gives' COVID-19 to Persons A & B who are both non-vaccinated
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Are the scenarios presented above possible/correct?
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Are the viral loads from non-vaccinated people more dangerous or the same as the viral loads from vaccinated people?
The UK Government is aiming for herd strength through vaccination, somewhere in the region of 80-85% of all those eligible for vaccination being double jabbed.
- If there is no difference in the viral load from non-vaccinated and vaccinated 'givers' then why are we worried about the non-vaccinated and anti-vaxxers?
If the double dose of vaccine provides ME with increased resistance to COVID-19
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Why the fuck should I be worried about those not choosing to be vaccinated?
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Why are the non-vaccinated holding the Government to ransom? If they become ill and possibly die of COVID-19 quite frankly SO WHAT.
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