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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @mn5 said in Beer thread:

    @nostrildamus said in Beer thread:

    and now an admission: if I didn't like Panhead's supercharger, is there any hope for me as a one-day cultivated beer drinker?

    Real Beer piston wristed gibbons ( people EVEN worse than me in this regard ) think of Supercharger as pretty mainstream these days, maybe that’s why you’re not a fan ?

    Apparently it’s pretty inconsistent depending on where you go but not sure how true that is.

    That would only be the case through bars having substandard equipment/cleaning.

    There is a lot of wankery that comes out when a boutique producer sells to a multi.
    Richard Emerson set the bar high when he sold out. He was still to keep management and control of brewing, recipes and ingredients. In return he cashed in and the business got a money injection to increase capacity/ build a(awesome) brewbar/taproom etc.
    Same happened with Panhead. Still brewed by the same people in the same place (extended of course). Just more of it, a brewbar or two and much better distribution.
    Tuatara also did the same but IMO became quite 'average' with concentration on the boring brews. Possibly slight taste changes from water supply as well. Also worth noting that their head brewer had left to set up Panhead.
    Personally I just don't think the original passion continued with Tuatara. They had created a brand with unique award winning packaging that was worth a multi purchasing to be able to put something 'craft' on their taps.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #1850

    @crucial said in Beer thread:

    @mn5 said in Beer thread:

    @nostrildamus said in Beer thread:

    and now an admission: if I didn't like Panhead's supercharger, is there any hope for me as a one-day cultivated beer drinker?

    Real Beer piston wristed gibbons ( people EVEN worse than me in this regard ) think of Supercharger as pretty mainstream these days, maybe that’s why you’re not a fan ?

    Apparently it’s pretty inconsistent depending on where you go but not sure how true that is.

    That would only be the case through bars having substandard equipment/cleaning.

    There is a lot of wankery that comes out when a boutique producer sells to a multi.
    Richard Emerson set the bar high when he sold out. He was still to keep management and control of brewing, recipes and ingredients. In return he cashed in and the business got a money injection to increase capacity/ build a(awesome) brewbar/taproom etc.
    Same happened with Panhead. Still brewed by the same people in the same place (extended of course). Just more of it, a brewbar or two and much better distribution.
    Tuatara also did the same but IMO became quite 'average' with concentration on the boring brews. Possibly slight taste changes from water supply as well. Also worth noting that their head brewer had left to set up Panhead.
    Personally I just don't think the original passion continued with Tuatara. They had created a brand with unique award winning packaging that was worth a multi purchasing to be able to put something 'craft' on their taps.

    Tuatara have the best bottles…..but they’re WAY down the list for best beers these days.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @nostrildamus yeah it is brewed over there...locally brewed stuff is almost always inferior to the imported, different water, often brewed more to local tastes/styles

    I used to drink Grolsch in the UK in those cool bottles (imported) but pretty sure most of the stuff here in NZ is brewed locally, and isnt nearly as good.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #1852

    Carlsberg is an interesting example. Over a number of years they made changes due to business reasons and the increment of those changes resulted in a product that was nowhere near as good as the one at the start.
    I saw full page ads that they took out apologising to the public for allowing their beer to be made by accountants and declaring that they had stopped the cost cutting changes and gone back to the original.
    Was a surprisingly candid reaction to falling market share and probably the only way they could try and retrieve the situation.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #1853

    @crucial so probably the worst decision in the world?

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #1854

    If Lion fuck up Stone & Wood I am going to be fucking furious

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    @mariner4life said in Beer thread:

    If Lion fuck up Stone & Wood I am going to be fucking furious

    The staff is remaining I thought?

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    @antipodean said in Beer thread:

    @mariner4life said in Beer thread:

    If Lion fuck up Stone & Wood I am going to be fucking furious

    The staff is remaining I thought?

    Doesn't matter if they do.

    Every example of a craft beer being taken over by one of the two big boys, ends in a lower quality product.

    This is gutting as Stone & Wood have been one of the best and definitely one Aussie OG's in terms of craft brewing.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    #1857

    Bach: Juicy AF is one of the top beers in NZ.

    I will fight anyone who disagrees.

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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    @nzzp no arguments from me. Bach have a really nice range of Hazy's.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #1859

    Anyone tried the double Pernicious Weed from Garage Project ?

    If I’m honest it might be too much of a good thing and at $12.99 from the Supermarket it’s getting up there in price. I’ll stick to the normal version I think.

    Have had a few absolutely lovely stouts over lockdown ( yet still managed to lose weight with more time and inclination to exercise and eat right ). In no particular order Duncans Toasty Marshmallow, Garage Projects Nitro Vanilla Latte, Cassels Double Cream Milk and Behemoths Cookies and Cream have hit the spot like you wouldn’t believe. Every single one just outstanding. Moa Brewings Pavtastic wasn’t as good cos it was only 5.4%, the others mentioned started at about 8% and above. Moa’s effort just felt a bit empty in comparison.

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  • TimT Away
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    #1860

    Urbanaut Brut Lager

    I am 100% convinced that this is a brut pale ale.

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  • TimT Away
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    wrote on last edited by Tim
    #1861

    Ordered a couple of six packs from Colab Brewing (pilsner, garden ale).

    Colab Brewing, Auckland, Craft Beer - Colab Brewing
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  • MN5M Offline
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    #1862

    @tim said in Beer thread:

    Ordered a couple of six packs from Colab Brewing (pilsner, garden ale).

    Colab Brewing, Auckland, Craft Beer - Colab Brewing

    Strongest of the six is only 6%. Stink.

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  • TimT Away
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    #1863

    @tim said in Beer thread:

    Ordered a couple of six packs from Colab Brewing (pilsner, garden ale).

    Colab Brewing, Auckland, Craft Beer - Colab Brewing

    Same day delivery in the Warkworth area. Nice!

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  • MN5M Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #1864

    @tim said in Beer thread:

    @tim said in Beer thread:

    Ordered a couple of six packs from Colab Brewing (pilsner, garden ale).

    Colab Brewing, Auckland, Craft Beer - Colab Brewing

    Same day delivery in the Warkworth area. Nice!

    Garage Project took about a week but given it was lots of free beer after I complained about a flat one I can’t really whinge too much.

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    #1865

    Screenshot_20211019-190644_WhatsApp.jpg

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  • gt12G Offline
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    #1866

    @canefan said in Memes:

    Screenshot_20211019-190644_WhatsApp.jpg

    I bet we all have a photo like that.

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  • voodooV Offline
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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
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    @gt12 said in Memes:

    @canefan said in Memes:

    Screenshot_20211019-190644_WhatsApp.jpg

    I bet we all have a photo like that.

    How good does that beer look too? That is a VB, or a Carlton Draught, or a Lion Red or a DB. Heck, maybe it's a fucking Rheineck.

    Either way, it's cold, sub-4.5% alcohol, and that bloke is about to enjoy 15 of them.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to voodoo on last edited by
    #1868

    @voodoo said in Memes:

    Either way, it's cold, sub-4.5% alcohol, and that bloke is about to enjoy 15 of them.

    and probably drive somewhere

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