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    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    @kiwiwomble said in Memes:

    @voodoo said in Memes:

    @gt12 said in Memes:

    @canefan said in Memes:

    Screenshot_20211019-190644_WhatsApp.jpg

    I bet we all have a photo like that.

    How good does that beer look too? That is a VB, or a Carlton Draught, or a Lion Red or a DB. Heck, maybe it's a fucking Rheineck.

    Either way, it's cold, sub-4.5% alcohol, and that bloke is about to enjoy 15 of them.

    always remember dad enjoyed a Rheineck...or even the odd Joseph Coutts, normally in a swapa crate

    First beer I ever had was a Joseph Coutts

    My dad barely drank, but when he did, he had a couple of DB Draughts

    Fuck. King. Gross

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #1880

    @mariner4life said in Beer thread:

    @hooroo said in Beer thread:

    @kiwiwomble said in Memes:

    @voodoo said in Memes:

    @gt12 said in Memes:

    @canefan said in Memes:

    Screenshot_20211019-190644_WhatsApp.jpg

    I bet we all have a photo like that.

    How good does that beer look too? That is a VB, or a Carlton Draught, or a Lion Red or a DB. Heck, maybe it's a fucking Rheineck.

    Either way, it's cold, sub-4.5% alcohol, and that bloke is about to enjoy 15 of them.

    always remember dad enjoyed a Rheineck...or even the odd Joseph Coutts, normally in a swapa crate

    First beer I ever had was a Joseph Coutts

    My dad barely drank, but when he did, he had a couple of DB Draughts

    Fuck. King. Gross

    When I was three, I was allowed a sip of the froth off Dad's DB draught. I didn't like it but I felt special as I was allowed it so would always ask.

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    #1881

    Yup the south โ€˜rapa was DB land, amongst the farmers around us anyway. Moved to Tui at some point in my late teens. Donโ€™t have a photo like that, cos almost no pics when I was a kid. But certainly introduced to beer that way!

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    replied to voodoo on last edited by Pepe
    #1882

    @voodoo said in Beer thread:

    Man I miss crates. From swapping them in Welly, to buying them over the bar at Gardies in Dunners. Environmentalists before our time

    Swapa crate is still very much alive and well in the King Country (and it doesn't just have to be Waikato...)

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    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #1883

    @mn5 beer from a 750ml bottle is far superior to thier canned or 330ml cousins!

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in Beer thread:

    @mn5 beer from a 750ml bottle is far superior to thier canned or 330ml cousins!

    Same shit just more of it.

    750ml bottles are exciting in your late teens and early 20s though.

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
    #1885

    @gt12 said in Beer thread:

    @voodoo said in Memes:

    @gt12 said in Memes:

    @canefan said in Memes:

    Screenshot_20211019-190644_WhatsApp.jpg

    I bet we all have a photo like that.

    How good does that beer look too? That is a VB, or a Carlton Draught, or a Lion Red or a DB. Heck, maybe it's a fucking Rheineck.

    Either way, it's cold, sub-4.5% alcohol, and that bloke is about to enjoy 15 of them.

    Lion Brown or Bavarian Bitter at ours (not anymore, thank god).

    My old man drank Lion Brown too, so that's what I was offered when I was young. I have never been a fan of Waikato Draught.

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    @mn5 said in Beer thread:

    @taniwharugby said in Beer thread:

    @mn5 beer from a 750ml bottle is far superior to thier canned or 330ml cousins!

    Same shit just more of it.

    750ml bottles are exciting in your late teens and early 20s though.

    500 ml bottles of Heartland are nice.

    One of the things I really like about Japan, especially as I can buy one on my way home and drink it while walking down the street.

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    #1887

    @gt12 said in Beer thread:

    @mn5 said in Beer thread:

    @taniwharugby said in Beer thread:

    @mn5 beer from a 750ml bottle is far superior to thier canned or 330ml cousins!

    Same shit just more of it.

    750ml bottles are exciting in your late teens and early 20s though.

    500 ml bottles of Heartland are nice.

    One of the things I really like about Japan, especially as I can buy one on my way home and drink it while walking down the street.

    Yeah I did that in London with cans of Red Stripe back in the day

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
    #1888

    @gt12 ha I used to work in an off-licence in the UK part time, and used to amaze me the number of people would get off the bus, come in, grab a can or 2 to drink while walking home...

    2 dudes had returned form a football match that thier team had won, so bought a bottle of veuve clicquot (wasnt the cheap one either) and drank it straight form the bottle as they wandered home! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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    @gt12 You can do that in NZ - as long as you don't mind some strange looks.

    Always remember when I started living in Netherlands being told how great it was coz you could piss in the street ๐Ÿ˜•

    Although I did discover the Politie weren't keen on you doing it on their nice leather coats.

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    #1890

    @dogmeat said in Beer thread:

    @gt12 You can do that in NZ - as long as you don't mind some strange looks.

    Always remember when I started living in Netherlands being told how great it was coz you could piss in the street ๐Ÿ˜•

    Although I did discover the Politie weren't keen on you doing it on their nice leather coats.

    Yeah it's generally only CBDs that have booze bans, and beaches!

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    #1891

    Cheaper British beer!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126753330/cheap-gin-and-chocolate-what-the-uknz-free-trade-deal-could-mean-for-kiwis

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @machpants said in Beer thread:

    Cheaper British beer!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126753330/cheap-gin-and-chocolate-what-the-uknz-free-trade-deal-could-mean-for-kiwis

    Be careful what you wish for.

    I am a huge fan of the best british beer. They have cask conditioned ales that are just awesome. But these aren't what we will get. The same ales when put in a bottle are mostly meh! (I would welcome the odd Fullers ESB or Youngs Spesh every now and then though and this could make them easier to get)
    Their 'craft beer' generally is no better than the dozens of options we already have. I can see our supermarkets flooded with the incredibly average range from Brewdog (which are in the same realm as Macs or Monteiths IMO)
    There are, of course, some places pushing boundaries especially around wild yeasts and I would be happy to see them on our shelves as something different. If we get the core range stuff from Wild Beer Company we may get some of their more interesting stuff on the side.

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #1893

    @machpants said in Beer thread:

    Cheaper British beer!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126753330/cheap-gin-and-chocolate-what-the-uknz-free-trade-deal-could-mean-for-kiwis

    Hopefully it'll bring scotch prices down too

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to delicatessen on last edited by
    #1894

    @delicatessen said in Beer thread:

    @machpants said in Beer thread:

    Cheaper British beer!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126753330/cheap-gin-and-chocolate-what-the-uknz-free-trade-deal-could-mean-for-kiwis

    Hopefully it'll bring scotch prices down too

    I doubt it. Unless an importer and distributor thinks they will sell more at slightly lower prices the price points won't change.
    Ideally someone would look to undercut the current set up and drive prices down.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #1895

    Bottled beer is not as good but at least British beers aren't in a race to see who can make their beer have the most hops in it!

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by Tim
    #1896

    @crucial said in Beer thread:

    Brewdog

    22% owned by a private equity company since 2017. Their poorer IPAs (Punk IPA, not nice) are stocked in convenience stores in China, alongside InBev's Goose Island (not good). The "Dead Pony" (name?) light ale is probably still good.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #1897

    @tim said in Beer thread:

    @crucial said in Beer thread:

    Brewdog

    22% owned by a private equity company since 2017. Their poorer IPAs (Punk IPA, not nice) are stocked in convenience stores in China, alongside InBev's Goose Island (not good). The "Dead Pony" (name?) light ale is probably still good.

    They served a great purpose as a market disruptor in the UK which is why they went big quick with public offferings. Every corner Tescos or Sainsburys stocks them.
    I don't think they set out to do it that way but saw a business model opening as the big retailers wanted to fill a 'craft beer' space on the shelves.
    As a pub option at places that only work off kegs they are often the best choice (when your other choices are Peroni etc) and Punk isn't that bad fresh off the tap.
    Beavertown are following a similar path.

    Yeastie Boys are also pretty much a UK brand now and getting distribution in supermarkets like Waitrose is a huge win for them. Credit to them that they keep an 'adventurous' arm going with some experimental stuff and a network of independent pubs that distribute these one-offs.

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    #1898

    Lager-brewing yeasts in the era of modern genetics

    The yeast Saccharomyces pastorianus is responsible for the annual worldwide production of almost 200 billion liters of lager-type beer. S. pastorianus is a hybrid of Saccharomyces cerevisiae and Saccharomyces eubayanus that has been studied for well over a century. Scientific interest in S. pastorianus intensified upon the discovery, in 2011, of its S. eubayanus ancestor. Moreover, advances in whole-genome sequencing and genome editing now enable deeper exploration of the complex hybrid and aneuploid genome architectures of S. pastorianus strains. These developments not only provide novel insights into the emergence and domestication of S. pastorianus but also generate new opportunities for its industrial application. This review paper combines historical, technical and socioeconomic perspectives to analyze the evolutionary origin and genetics of S. pastorianus. In addition, it provides an overview of available methods for industrial strain improvement and an outlook on future industrial application of lager-brewing yeasts. Particular attention is given to the ongoing debate on whether current S. pastorianus originates from a single or multiple hybridization events and to the potential role of genome editing in developing industrial brewing yeast strains.

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