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    @canefan that too but why so much defense. Keep the damn ball.

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @canefan that too but why so much defense. Keep the damn ball.

    Are we not confident in our ability to recycle? The refs are certainly more ready to allow competition, lawful or otherwise

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    @mn5 well I only went by what the AB and Hurricanes site said, I thought he'd be closest which is why I checked.

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    Fosters answer throw the backs under the bus,he is challenging them to get better, because he is pretty happy with his forward pack,What about you getting better Foster and your coaching group.
    His latest comment in the media, I didn’t even bother to post it but it’s on stuff,
    He has no clue just pass the blame on.
    Nothing about tactics or we need to get better as a coaching group, just it’s everyone else’s fault.

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    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Nothing about tactics or we need to get better as a coaching group, just it’s everyone else’s fault.

    Stark contrast with Henry/Hansen/Smith, who openly copped being outcoached -- and swapped roles to try and lift/bring a fresh perspective to various areas.

    Remember when our lineout was absolute pants? I do, it was just terrible. The 2000's were deeply frustrating as a supporter at times

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Nothing about tactics or we need to get better as a coaching group, just it’s everyone else’s fault.

    Stark contrast with Henry/Hansen/Smith, who openly copped being outcoached -- and swapped roles to try and lift/bring a fresh perspective to various areas.

    Remember when our lineout was absolute pants? I do, it was just terrible. The 2000's were deeply frustrating as a supporter at times

    Yes I remember the 2000’s it’s feels like that all over again doesn’t it.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mn5 well I only went by what the AB and Hurricanes site said, I thought he'd be closest which is why I checked.

    Players should get weighed in before games just like boxing and MMA. That way if they play poorly we can criticise the heftier players for too much KFC and the lighter players for not hitting the gym hard enough.

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    @canefan maybe it is because our tackling is not dominant. We are going backwards. I mean a year or so ago Ofa was knocking people backwards. What happened. That’s why Akira needs to be in and not saying he is the solution. The engine room needs to improve.

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    @mn5 you could also weigh them after to see who had tried the hardest, didn't lose xkg's?....laps

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    @mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mn5 well I only went by what the AB and Hurricanes site said, I thought he'd be closest which is why I checked.

    Players should get weighed in before games just like boxing and MMA. That way if they play poorly we can criticise the heftier players for too much KFC and the lighter players for not hitting the gym hard enough.

    Weigh the fucking coaches while we are at it,

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    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Nothing about tactics or we need to get better as a coaching group, just it’s everyone else’s fault.

    Stark contrast with Henry/Hansen/Smith, who openly copped being outcoached -- and swapped roles to try and lift/bring a fresh perspective to various areas.

    Remember when our lineout was absolute pants? I do, it was just terrible. The 2000's were deeply frustrating as a supporter at times

    Yes I remember the 2000’s it’s feels like that all over again doesn’t it.

    To be that lucky.

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    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Nothing about tactics or we need to get better as a coaching group, just it’s everyone else’s fault.

    Stark contrast with Henry/Hansen/Smith, who openly copped being outcoached -- and swapped roles to try and lift/bring a fresh perspective to various areas.

    Remember when our lineout was absolute pants? I do, it was just terrible. The 2000's were deeply frustrating as a supporter at times

    Yes I remember the 2000’s it’s feels like that all over again doesn’t it.

    Interestingly, the Irish game felt a bit like when SA beat the ABs in 2004 (40-26 - Marius Joubert hattrick). Henry, Hansen and Smith jettisoned some of the old guard and brought in new faces. It resulted in the Paris 2004 performance which was a real marker.

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @canefan maybe it is because our tackling is not dominant. We are going backwards. I mean a year or so ago Ofa was knocking people backwards. What happened. That’s why Akira needs to be in and not saying he is the solution. The engine room needs to improve.

    The more I think about it, the more the passive tackling seems to be a tactic to soak up pressure and invite teams to overplay and go for the turnover. It also has the benefit of reducing the risk of yellow and red cards, which the ABs have had several of in recent years since SBW in 2017.

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    @mn5 They should weigh Jordie's booger.

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    @chris said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mn5 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @mn5 well I only went by what the AB and Hurricanes site said, I thought he'd be closest which is why I checked.

    Players should get weighed in before games just like boxing and MMA. That way if they play poorly we can criticise the heftier players for too much KFC and the lighter players for not hitting the gym hard enough.

    Weigh the fucking coaches while we are at it,

    Getting the machines that weigh shipping containers might be a bit of a pain to transport to Rugby grounds

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    @stodders To me a dominant tackle is one will you stop the opposition or they’re are driven backwards so you’re changing the gain line. It’s easier when you’re moving forward to get a turnover under that scenario. It would be good to have a bigger 2nd lock than 2 beanpoles like an Sam Lousi type or Brad Thorn for those who think I’m off my rocker.

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    Remember when our lineout was absolute pants? I do, it was just terrible. The 2000's were deeply frustrating as a supporter at times

    We were also changing the coaching team ever couple of years then - at least until Ted came along, IIRC - and not many people were happy with his re-appointment after 2007.

    But some smart people got together, did some analysis and fixed what was wrong. Needs to be done again.

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    @broughie the alternative wold be a less dominant tackle but get there faster and catch them behind the gainline, try and force an error with the scrambling back

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    @kiwiwomble true but I like going forward.

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    @broughie said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

    @kiwiwomble true but I like going forward.

    Ireland exposed the outside edge of NZs defence several times on Saturday to make good ground and get into the 22. As much as the defensive effort to repel them on the goal line was exceptional at times, questions need to be asked as to why Ireland were able to get there in the first place. Doris try aside (where Taylor missed his man), it was the AB backline defence that was caught out, not necessarily Ireland going up the guts.

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