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    @sparky said in The State of the Game:

    Last time Australia, South Africa and New Zealand all lost on the same day was in November 2002.

    Such a top level troll, I laughed!

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    @machpants said in The State of the Game:

    @sparky said in The State of the Game:

    Last time Australia, South Africa and New Zealand all lost on the same day was in November 2002.

    Such a top level troll, I laughed!

    He’s still a cock but that was pretty well played ( if it’s actually him )

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    @machpants We've given the Walrus so much shit over the years that frankly I don't mind him enjoying this moment (this era?) of Northern Hemisphere Rugby supremacy.

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    @sparky said in The State of the Game:

    @machpants We've given the Walrus so much shit over the years that frankly I don't mind him enjoying this moment (this era?) of Northern Hemisphere Rugby supremacy.

    Didn't we beat Wales? Or is he only Welsh when it suits him?

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    @nostrildamus The All Blacks have beaten Wales every time they've played them since 1953, including a heavy win against a Wales team (with a few o f their best players unavailable) on this tour.

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    @sparky said in The State of the Game:

    @nostrildamus The All Blacks have beaten Wales every time they've played them since 1953, including a heavy win against a Wales team (with a few o f their best players unavailable) on this tour.

    it was kind of rhetorical 🙂

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    @nostrildamus he's not Welsh, we revoked his citizenship years ago

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    Still such a lottery on head contact in this weekend's games. The exact same thing goes from totally ignored one play, to pearl-clutching red card the next. Nonsense.

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    @sparky said in The State of the Game:

    @nostrildamus The All Blacks have beaten Wales every time they've played them since 1953, including a heavy win against a Wales team (with a few o f their best players unavailable) on this tour.

    He’s any nation that beats the All Blacks. So I’m sure he’s become Irish and Argentinian in the last few years.

    The one consistent is how much of a talentless cock he is though.

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    @mn5 He's safely behind Murdoch paywall so I haven't read his stuff in over a decade.

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    @machpants said in The State of the Game:

    @sparky said in The State of the Game:

    Last time Australia, South Africa and New Zealand all lost on the same day was in November 2002.

    Such a top level troll, I laughed!

    Total obvious troll all right.

    As much as we are dumping on the ABs all of the NH teams had to play very well to beat their SH counterparts. Somehow that isn't quality opposition?

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    Home-town calls or are we southerners just a bunch of dirty bastards?

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    @voodoo said in The State of the Game:

    Home-town calls or are we southerners just a bunch of dirty bastards?

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    Those stats are pretty lopsided

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    @voodoo said in The State of the Game:

    Home-town calls or are we southerners just a bunch of dirty bastards?

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    that is interesting, or does that say more about the consistency of application of the laws applied by refs from the southern hemisphere versus their northern hemsiphere brothers when playing here?

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    @bayimports said in The State of the Game:

    @voodoo said in The State of the Game:

    Home-town calls or are we southerners just a bunch of dirty bastards?

    c0bfe93a-fdf7-4c26-83cc-de087b129184-IMG-20211122-WA0004.jpg

    that is interesting, or does that say more about the consistency of application of the laws applied by refs from the southern hemisphere versus their northern hemsiphere brothers when playing here?

    I'd say that is a big part, and it then highlights the issue of rugby rules in that there is such a varying degree of application/interpretation between NH/SH.

    I wonder what the card rate in NH club rugby is like? Given the NH teams are against the 20 min RC, what exactly is thier reasoning? Do they have more RCs for filth and therefore feel RC means bye bye?

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    What is the breakdown for NH vs SH refs in these games? Certainly the NH refs seem happy to reach for the pocket but show no consistency doing it.

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    @bayimports said in The State of the Game:

    @voodoo said in The State of the Game:

    Home-town calls or are we southerners just a bunch of dirty bastards?

    c0bfe93a-fdf7-4c26-83cc-de087b129184-IMG-20211122-WA0004.jpg

    that is interesting, or does that say more about the consistency of application of the laws applied by refs from the southern hemisphere versus their northern hemsiphere brothers when playing here?

    i think this....but

    because im in an anti Fozzie mood, this isn't a surprise to anyone, lots of things are reffed differently in the northern hemisphere and we should be planning around that

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    slight tangent back towards the good stuff in the game, just saw this

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    @taniwharugby said in The State of the Game:

    @bayimports said in The State of the Game:

    @voodoo said in The State of the Game:

    Home-town calls or are we southerners just a bunch of dirty bastards?

    c0bfe93a-fdf7-4c26-83cc-de087b129184-IMG-20211122-WA0004.jpg

    that is interesting, or does that say more about the consistency of application of the laws applied by refs from the southern hemisphere versus their northern hemsiphere brothers when playing here?

    I'd say that is a big part, and it then highlights the issue of rugby rules in that there is such a varying degree of application/interpretation between NH/SH.

    I wonder what the card rate in NH club rugby is like? Given the NH teams are against the 20 min RC, what exactly is thier reasoning? Do they have more RCs for filth and therefore feel RC means bye bye?

    The main argument against 20 minute cards is that it lessens the penalty for serious foul play. That it will mean people might be more willing to risk tackling like Valentini yesterday, because they know their team won't be punished as badly if they're only short for 20 mins as opposed to, say, 60.

    The argument that it should be the individual and not the team that gets punished is pure nonsense IMO. A team has a responsibility to teach their players to tackle safely.

    Having said that I totally get the issue that a red can be either a very big or a very small punishment depending on whether it happens in the 5th or the 75th minute, and the 20 minute rule would go a long way to addressing that.

    So I can see both sides. I'm undecided.

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    @gibbon-rib I've always been in favour of somethign other than a straight out RC.

    It has too much of an impact on the game.

    As a fan, who pays to watch Rugby, if I see a RC in the opening 10-15, it pisses me off...if it was pure filth (Heaslip knee to McCaw) then I blame that fluffybunny, if its a debatable head contact or in the air contact, no way should it ruin the entire game and the blame sits with WR.

    I would be less concerned if the RC was for filth, and a 20 min Orange Card for dangerous stuff.

    I honestly dont think at this level of rugby, a player will go out and be reckless just because it will affect things less, they leave the field, end of thier day, or weeks in fact.

    Maybe a financial burden on them too would be even more incentive, but I think being sent off and sitting on the sidelines for weeks is enough.

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