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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    If you are only going to select two pace bowlers I would be wanting a left/right combo to provide some variety. Wags will run in all day, which is a big plus.

    Williamson better have his lucky socks on for the toss.

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    @dogmeat said in NZ tour of India:

    @mn5 I think they will go three spinners and it will be either Wags or Jamieson who miss out. Personally I'd have Wags in the side and be tempted to rest Southee.

    If we only take two spinners I'd make Satnav carry the drinks

    Well it’s two relatively unproven guys vs a guy who is proven ( to be a bit shit ) but who can at least bat a bit.

    So despite all my criticism of him Santner gets in if it were up to me.

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    @mn5 I'd take the pair who have actually spun us to victories over the veteran who... hasn't.

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    @dogmeat said in NZ tour of India:

    @mn5 I'd take the pair who have actually spun us to victories over the veteran who... hasn't.

    he actually did against Pakistan though. Got the final niggly wicket to beat them.

    But fuck me, look who we’re talking about. It’s certainly not Jadeja or Ashwin is it ?

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    I'm still going with Ravindra for my third spinner. As is Smithy.

    Ian Smith’s XI for New Zealand:

    Tom Latham

    Will Young

    Kane Williamson

    Ross Taylor

    Henry Nicholls

    Tom Blundell

    Rachin Ravindra

    William Somerville

    Ajaz Patel

    Kyle Jamieson

    Neil Wagner

    Nov 22, 2021

    Ian Smith names his Blackcaps XI ahead of first Test against India

    Ian Smith names his Blackcaps XI ahead of first Test against India

    Smithy has gone spin-heavy in what seems to be a typical sub-continent pitch.

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    I had precisely 0 interest in the T20 series, but looking forward to the tests.

    I agree with Smithy's team, Southee is unlikely to be effective with military medium pace on a slow pitch with little swing. We'll want a point of difference and Kylo + Wags gives us that.

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    @no-quarter said in NZ tour of India:

    I had precisely 0 interest in the T20 series, but looking forward to the tests.

    I agree with Smithy's team, Southee is unlikely to be effective with military medium pace on a slow pitch with little swing. We'll want a point of difference and Kylo + Wags gives us that.

    Which means the Selectors will go with Southee and Santner..

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    I have a suspicion that Jamieson could be least effective of the 3 seamers. Due to no bounce. But hell of a decision to make. Until you've given him a chance ... Like the Indians having to leave out Axar Patel in England. But I think Jamieson is on a different level to Axar in 'normal' conditions. So, not really like it at all ....

    Southee is a canny operator these days. I think his control of the wobble seam / three-quarter ball will make him pretty effective even as the ball gets older.

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    @rapido said in NZ tour of India:

    I have a suspicion that Jamieson could be least effective of the 3 seamers. Due to no bounce. But hell of a decision to make. Until you've given him a chance ... Like the Indians having to leave out Axar Patel in England. But I think Jamieson is on a different level to Axar in 'normal' conditions. So, not really like it at all ....

    Southee is a canny operator these days. I think his control of the wobble seam / three-quarter ball will make him pretty effective even as the ball gets older.

    Amazing problem to have isnt it.
    3 World Class pace bowlers each with a unique strength and difference.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    I'm flip flopping. Top 6 picks itself.

    But my first choice is lower order / bowling combo is:

    1. Ravindra
    2. Southee
    3. Wagner
    4. Sommerville
    5. Patel

    But could accept Jamieson for Sommerville. But if they do this I'd be worried the selectors would also swap out Ravindra for the more experienced Santner. As that role's workload would jump by 100%.

    I've been a defender of Santner, and think he's been a good balance selection and role player in difficult NZ conditions for his position. But am perfectly comfortable totally swapping him totally out of the 11 in Asia. I'm not worried about him as 3rd spinner, he's plenty good enough for that. But he isn't good enough for second spinner nor is he a good enough batsman.

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    @rapido said in NZ tour of India:

    I have a suspicion that Jamieson could be least effective of the 3 seamers. Due to no bounce. But hell of a decision to make. Until you've given him a chance ... Like the Indians having to leave out Axar Patel in England. But I think Jamieson is on a different level to Axar in 'normal' conditions. So, not really like it at all ....

    Southee is a canny operator these days. I think his control of the wobble seam / three-quarter ball will make him pretty effective even as the ball gets older.

    A fair counter, Southee is a canny operator for sure. I just think we'd be crazy not to give Kyle a go given how insanely good he's been to date - his sheer height causes the Indian batsmen plenty of issues and I think that will continue even without the extra bounce. The point of release is completely different to our other bowlers which makes it tougher to pick up the length as quickly.

    That said, it'll be the spinners that hold the key to 20 wickets.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    I’ll be furious if they leave out Jamieson.

    Then again I’ll be furious if they leave out Southee or Wags.

    So I’m bracing myself to be furious.

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    I'm going to be totally emotionally spent by the final 11 selection and then the toss.

    Then, inevitably, we will witness a typical unprepared first test tourist roll over and have their tummy scratched let down anyway.

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Via Cricinfo:

    On the pitch report, Deep Dasgupta and Simon Doull reckon there will be turn and perhaps variable bounce on this pitch. Some cracks, which are a bit wobbly around the edges already. You would want to win the toss here!

    9 am Toss time: India win the toss and will bat.

    Boooooooooooooo!

    Not looking forward to the final innings...

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  • B Do not disturb
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    bayimports
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    another game decided by the toss.. yay

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    Williamson, back after his elbow injury enforced break, says this will be a different challenge. Ajaz Patel and Will Sommerville playing, as is debutant Rachin Ravindra.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bloody Kane!

    We'll be batting sometime on Sat. 😞

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    No Wags.

    1 Tom Latham, 2 Will Young, 3 Kane Williamson (c), 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Henry Nicholls, 6 Tom Blundell (wk), 7 Rachin Ravindra, 8 Kyle Jamieson, 9 Will Sommerville, 10 Tim Southee, 11 Ajaz Patel

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    No Wags. Didn’t see that one coming…

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  • MN5M Offline
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    What an absolutely brilliant time for a test match to start !

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