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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    At the moment he starts or is left out completely because the other guys offer more options from the bench.

    Meanwhile Sotutu was excellent off of the bench in Boks game 1.

    Yeah he did play well. It was the only time he was included on a bench this year though.

    Jacobson & Blackadder were both used 4 times on the bench. Surprisingly Frizell was used 3 times despite missing loads of tests
    (the others were Ioane twice, Cane coming back from injury and Sotutu)

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    Sotutu might actually be more under threat than Jacobson. If you aren't a starter you really need to offer versatility.

    At the moment he starts or is left out completely because the other guys offer more options from the bench.

    He's basically an 8 at SR/AB level and nothing else (he has two starts on a the flank at NPC)
    When subs happen at the Blues he stays at 8 and other players shift around

    Maybe finishing a few SR games next year at 7 would help his AB chances? Hard to see him getting any time at 6

    or, you know, the AB selectors could fucking identify that the wet paper bag they have at 8 isn't the answer? And then suddenly he's a shout to start

    He's there for his mana and highlights. I assume the stats analyst does fuck all too.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    because i assume we are still wedded to the whole "can't play 3 games in 3 weeks" thing

    So the solution to it being hard to play 3 games in 3 weeks is to play with worse players for one of those weeks. Genius. Let's roll out the B team for the final cause the A team has played in the Quarter and Semi.

    What's next? It's hard to defend for the full 80 minutes so we'll just do it for 60 minutes?

    Seems like such a 2021 "solution" to a problem.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    The five under threat imo are Bridge, Havili, Mounga, McKenzie and (to a lesser extent) Taylor. That list was weird to me

    Hard to see RM being under threat because realistically there isn't anyone else.

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    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    The five under threat imo are Bridge, Havili, Mounga, McKenzie and (to a lesser extent) Taylor. That list was weird to me

    Reece dropped off too but he does have a good workrate.

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    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    The five under threat imo are Bridge, Havili, Mounga, McKenzie and (to a lesser extent) Taylor. That list was weird to me

    Hard to see RM being under threat because realistically there isn't anyone else.

    Stephen Donald: Hold my fritters.

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    This article has an extended video interview with Beauden (shown on Newshub last night).

    Stuff
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  • MachpantsM Offline
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    #2517

    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

    This article has an extended video interview with Beauden (shown on Newshub last night).

    Stuff

    Current squad member wants to keep job, so says current coach is great. What a headline

    At least this "become less predictable in what we do"

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    Barrett concedes there'll be red flags, if the All Blacks don't learn from their 2021 mistakes
    

    Um, 2020, anyone?

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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by taniwharugby
    #2519

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    Um, 2018-2020, anyone?

    FIFY

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    Um, 2018-2020, anyone?

    FIFY

    yeah, um, you have a good point there.

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    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    The five under threat imo are Bridge, Havili, Mounga, McKenzie and (to a lesser extent) Taylor. That list was weird to me

    Hard to see RM being under threat because realistically there isn't anyone else.

    He's probably put himself as second choice, so on the bench, but there is no way he gets dropped from the squad.

    If someone turns up the heat (e.g., Joane) or Dmac comes back as the red-hot 10 from Japan wiht BB on form, there could be a discussion, but even then I can't see it happening.

    Dmac has likely missed his chance for a WC spot, in my view.

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    #2522

    Ardie Savea to stay until 2025.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ardie Savea to stay until 2025.

    Interesting that he’s only signed for the Canes until 2023.

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by junior
    #2524

    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    Sotutu might actually be more under threat than Jacobson. If you aren't a starter you really need to offer versatility.

    At the moment he starts or is left out completely because the other guys offer more options from the bench.

    He's basically an 8 at SR/AB level and nothing else (he has two starts on a the flank at NPC)
    When subs happen at the Blues he stays at 8 and other players shift around

    Maybe finishing a few SR games next year at 7 would help his AB chances? Hard to see him getting any time at 6

    What we don't need is more 'tweeners in our back row.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ardie Savea to stay until 2025.

    Such mana! Gotta be our number 8 through to the World Cup. Absolutely undroppable!!

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ardie Savea to stay until 2025.

    Great news, Ardie is awesome, I disagree with most of the posters here in thst. No point arguing it, but imo he was the best player along with Rieko, this year.

    I do hope he does better than our last long term Savea signing, tho!

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    It’s funny. Savea is highly rated outside of this forum, whether that’s journalists or rugby fans from our opponents, but here he seems to be regarded as borderline useless. Someone is wrong.

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  • FrankF Offline
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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by
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    @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

    It’s funny. Savea is highly rated outside of this forum, whether that’s journalists or rugby fans from our opponents, but here he seems to be regarded as borderline useless. Someone is wrong.

    He is considered unsuitable at 8 given our current loose forward mix.

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by
    #2529

    @billy-tell said in All Blacks 2021:

    It’s funny. Savea is highly rated outside of this forum, whether that’s journalists or rugby fans from our opponents, but here he seems to be regarded as borderline useless. Someone is wrong.

    He is an awesome bench and impact player, but not what this team needs at No. 8.

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