Chris Gayle. Stay Classy

MajorRage

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Ahh no, that's me explaining your fallacy to you, as you asked me to. One could be reasonably expected to understand the context given what I quoted from you. 
 
I don't know what that means, but I'll presume not much which kind of makes my point for me.
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I 100% from the bottom of my heart, no longer give a fuck.

Cookie

The issue I have with whole thing, is here is a guy 36 years old, he's had his first child barely a month ago. This is a life changing experience, but it seems he would rather tell everyone he's got a massive dick. 
I think the mother of his daughter deserves a bit more than that.

jegga

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The issue I have with whole thing, is here is a guy 36 years old, he's had his first child barely a month ago. This is a life changing experience, but it seems he would rather tell everyone he's got a massive dick. 
I think the mother of his daughter deserves a bit more than that.
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Lets be honest here, if your dick was truly massive you'd probably mention it every time you got interviewed.

Cookie

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="581926" data-time="1463993885">Lets be honest here, if your dick was truly massive you'd probably mention it every time you got interviewed.</blockquote>
 
Have I not mentioned mine on here already? :) 
Methinks Gayle is overcompensating. I bet he has a powerful red sports car too.

Siam

Some quotes from Gayle himself in his autobiography
 
These comments pertain to the Mel interview thing: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/1018659.html'>http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/1018659.html</a>
 
Despite the controversy that ensued, Gayle remains unrepentant five months down the line. "Now T20 is different," he writes, in a serialised extract of his book Six Machine, published in the Times. "It's not Test cricket. It's chilled and fun and let's do things different. So when Mel asks me that question I stay in the T20 mind, and answer informal and fun. I meant it as a joke. I meant it as a little fun. I didn't mean to be disrespectful and I didn't mean it to be taken serious."
 
As Gayle noted, Network Ten's commentary team could be heard laughing on air after the incident. "But someone up above them clearly decided to step in, and a throwaway comment in a fun format escalates and blows up and within hours it has turned into a major international incident," he wrote. 
 
"Don't hate me just because I'm not what you want me to be. Don't hate me because I'm not who you are. I am me and I am honest. I stand by my friends and my friends stand by me."
 
I quite like the last comments and am always astonished by comments imparting judgements and standards of behaviour on other people they've never met.

antipodean

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I quite like the last comments and am always astonished by comments imparting judgements and standards of behaviour on other people they've never met.
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Are you suggesting you don't judge people, or that you're astonished at yourself when you do?

barbarian

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<div>"Don't hate me just because I'm not what you want me to be. Don't hate me because I'm not who you are. I am me and I am honest. I stand by my friends and my friends stand by me."
 
I quite like the last comments and am always astonished by comments imparting judgements and standards of behaviour on other people they've never met.
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Why? If another person falls short of what I consider acceptable behaviour, am I not allowed to say so?
 
I don't have to meet someone before I can judge their behaviour, especially when that behaviour is broadcast live on Channel 10.
 
I don't hate Chris Gayle. I love watching him play cricket. But 'honest' or not, he's a bit of a creep.

Siam

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Are you suggesting you don't judge people, or that you're astonished at yourself when you do?
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I never suggested any of that. 
 
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Why? If another person falls short of what I consider acceptable behaviour, am I not allowed to say so?
 
I don't have to meet someone before I can judge their behaviour, especially when that behaviour is broadcast live on Channel 10.
 
I don't hate Chris Gayle. I love watching him play cricket. But 'honest' or not, he's a bit of a creep.
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Say whatever you like chief. 
 
It's a forum encouraging people to air their views
 
I simply see no validity or substance in such judgements so in the same way people will argue there is a god with just as little validity and substance, I think "why not keep that piece of information to yourself ?". "What use is that piece of information to anyone but yourself?"
 
I'm not a fan of useless information. I prefer evidence, validity and substance be present in judgements. Just my opinion
 
 
Running people down based on less than 100 words of their life is (in my opinion - so if you like doing that then don't bother challenging me) is simply a piss poor way of reaching a valid judgement, and I think (again just to be clear) that it makes people sound like "holier than though" or superior human beings.
 
Yes that's my judgement
 
Before quoting this thread please look at the first 2 lines again, then knock your socks off

antipodean

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="581967" data-time="1464010115">I never suggested any of that.</blockquote> Colour me confused when you said you're 'always astonished by comments imparting judgements and standards of behaviour on other people they've never met'. <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">Running people down based on less than 100 words of their life is (in my opinion - so if you like doing that then don't bother challenging me) is simply a piss poor way of reaching a valid judgement, and I think (again just to be clear) that it makes people sound like "holier than though" or superior human beings. Yes that's my judgement</blockquote> ??? There's no suggestion people are saying he's a crap cricketer because he says some stupid sexist shit while working. I find the whole notion people can't be criticised based on their actions or utterances fucking odd.

booboo

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I'm not a fan of useless information. I prefer evidence, validity and substance be present in judgements. Just my opinion </blockquote>
In my opinion Chris Gayle has provided enough evidence to substantiate my judgement of him.

No Quarter

I wouldn't be surprised to see more "interviews" with Gayle from various media outlets. He's click-bait gold.

nzzp

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I wouldn't be surprised to see more "interviews" with Gayle from various media outlets. He's click-bait gold.
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<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/72039220/West-Indian-cricketer-Chris-Gayle-builds-strip-club-in-his-own-house'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/72039220/West-Indian-cricketer-Chris-Gayle-builds-strip-club-in-his-own-house</a>
 
He has built a strip club in his bedroom, and people get surprised that he treats females as objects? 
 
Click bait is right, you know what you get with that guy. Great cricketer, but culturally a long way from modern western expectations.

MajorRage

He's just playing on his image now, but has seemingly lost the plot.
 
The "coolest guy in cricket" is certainly not even close to that anymore.

jegga

Hang on, his book is call Six Machine. Awesome
 
<img src="https://satelliteshow.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/ick1.jpeg?w=196&h=300" alt="ick1.jpeg?w=196&h=300">

hydro11

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I never suggested any of that. 
 
 
 
Say whatever you like chief. 
 
It's a forum encouraging people to air their views
 
I simply see no validity or substance in such judgements so in the same way people will argue there is a god with just as little validity and substance, I think "why not keep that piece of information to yourself ?". "What use is that piece of information to anyone but yourself?"
 
I'm not a fan of useless information. I prefer evidence, validity and substance be present in judgements. Just my opinion
 
 
Running people down based on less than 100 words of their life is (in my opinion - so if you like doing that then don't bother challenging me) is simply a piss poor way of reaching a valid judgement, and I think (again just to be clear) that it makes people sound like "holier than though" or superior human beings.
 
Yes that's my judgement
 
Before quoting this thread please look at the first 2 lines again, then knock your socks off
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People shouldn't 'run someone down.' However, I think we should be able to say that Gayle was rude and disrespectful in that interview and he has hardly made amends with his actions since then. If Gayle regrets his comments or thinks he has been misunderstood then you may have a point. Yet, it seems like Gayle stands by what he said

Frank

He doesn't give a fuck.
He's a "player". 
Spoilt children have no reason to grow up until their toys (women, money, talent) get taken away - just ask Donald Trump.

MN5

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He doesn't give a fuck.
He's a "player". 
Spoilt children have no reason to grow up until their toys (women, money, talent) get taken away - just ask Donald Trump.
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Comparing him to Trump is fucken far fetched Frank

taniwharugby

both he and Trump have spoken about thier size recently, they have that in common....

MN5

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both he and Trump have spoken about thier size recently, they have that in common....
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I've seen a painting of Trump. He's lying.

gollum

Fuck me theres some bullshit on this thread.
 
This interview was a 2000 word deal in the Times. Stuff took 5 lines out of contect to the interview & used them to make their usual 200-word written for retards click bait. The actual article is excellent and you get a great over vierw of Gayle. So you don't get stuff like - 
 
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Frank" data-cid="582209" data-time="1464074845">
<div> Spoilt children have no reason to grow up until their toys (women, money, talent) get taken away - just ask Donald Trump.
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Gayle grew up with nothing in a shitty part of Jamacia. Shared a bed with 4 brothers & had a dad who made him play cricket to avoid gangs.
 
I'm not a huge Gayle fan, but in the serialisation in the Times he comes across surpsisingly well. Even when discussing Blushgate (he also points out his daughter actually called Chrisalina, which is dumb, but not as dumb as Blush). The level of hipocracy was highlighted in the serialisation too. He notes Chris Rogers saying he led guys astray & then mentions that Chris Rogers was the one guy guarenteed to be out drinking with him. Or Chappell saying he should be banned, the same Chappell who was once arrested for assault in the carribean etc...
 
This whole thread is driving off an utterly bullshit 200 word quote fest that is garbage. While yes, Gayle is a tool & he attitude to women is not great (tho' no different from almost all top sportsmen), the driver of this thread is bollocks.

The Silver Fern

Chris Gayle. Stay Classy