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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @crucial

    Let’s pretend that is true

    What about Eugene Bareman?

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    Is it a case of MMA not having a proper national body so they get forgotten about?

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    @duluth said in Halberg Awards:

    No MMA nominations

    That’s interesting when you consider Adesanya was the 2019 sportsman of the year for winning his belt. In the period for this award he’s defended the belt 3 times. But that doesn’t even get a nomination amongst this group:

    Sportsman of the Year

    Aaron Gate (track cycling), Andy Maloney (sailing), Campbell Stewart (track cycling), Chris Wood (football), Corbin Strong (track cycling), David Nyika (boxing), Dylan Schmidt (gymnastics), Finn Butcher (canoe slalom), George Bennett (road cycling), Hamish Bond (rowing), Hayden Wilde (triathlon), James McDonald (horse-racing), Josh Junior (sailing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Lewis Clareburt (swimming), Nico Porteous (freeskiing), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Curry (Rugby Sevens), Scott Dixon (motorsport), Scott McLaughlin (motorsport), Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport), Tom Walsh (athletics).

    Reality is that is a list of some excellent sportsman, some next tier sportsman playing in the big leagues and some I've never even heard of despite following NZ sport to the extent I post on a sports forum about it.

    It's beyond a joke to have no MMA representation.

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    @crucial said in Halberg Awards:

    @duluth said in Halberg Awards:

    @smudge said in Halberg Awards:

    Isn't it up to the national sporting organisation to nominate the athlete?

    I think so? It would be strange for them to nominate Adesanya & Bareman in 2019 but not for this 2 year period. That’s was why I thought the omissions were interesting.

    I hope that crucials theory of political retribution is incorrect.

    My guess it’s because of another disagreement (this one isn’t political)

    Slight misrepresentation there.
    His spiel directly accused the police and “bureaucrats “ of treating him differently because he’s black.
    Add that to his record of controversial speaking and it wouldn’t surprise me if he is deemed to be a “risk”.

    Maybe he's not deemed as kind enough?

    I actually have little issue in not being able to win it for the above reasons. But to not get nominated is simply not good enough.

    There is no way somebody who came 11th in the premier league in scoring statistics is the NZ sportsman of the year nominee ahead of an actual world champion in a growing sport unless there is outside political involvement.

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    @hooroo said in Halberg Awards:

    Nice to see McDonald nominated.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/127301750/olympic-and-world-champions-abound-in-quality-halberg-award-nominations-list

    AT A GLANCE

    Nominations for the 59th Halberg Awards

    Sportsman of the Year

    Aaron Gate (track cycling), Andy Maloney (sailing), Campbell Stewart (track cycling), Chris Wood (football), Corbin Strong (track cycling), David Nyika (boxing), Dylan Schmidt (gymnastics), Finn Butcher (canoe slalom), George Bennett (road cycling), Hamish Bond (rowing), Hayden Wilde (triathlon), James McDonald (horse-racing), Josh Junior (sailing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Lewis Clareburt (swimming), Nico Porteous (freeskiing), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Curry (Rugby Sevens), Scott Dixon (motorsport), Scott McLaughlin (motorsport), Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport), Tom Walsh (athletics).

    Para Athlete/Team of the Year

    Anna Grimaldi (Para athletics), Danielle Aitchison (Para athletics), Emma Foy & Hannah van Kampen (Para cycling), Holly Robinson (Para athletics), Lisa Adams (Para athletics), Nicole Murray (Para cycling), Sarah Ellington (Para cycling), Sophie Pascoe (Para swimming), Tupou Neiufi (Para swimming), Will Stedman (Para athletics).

    Sportswoman of the Year

    Alice Robinson (alpine ski racing), Courtney Duncan (motocross), Ellesse Andrews (track cycling), Emma Twigg (rowing), Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Luuka Jones (canoe slalom), Lydia Ko (golf), Mikayla Harvey (road cycling), Niamh Fisher-Black (road cycling), Sarah Hirini (rugby sevens), Ria Percival (football), Dame Valerie Adams (athletics), Zoi Sadowski-Synnott (snowboarding).

    Team of the Year

    Black Caps (cricket), Black Ferns Sevens (rugby sevens), Emirates Team New Zealand (sailing), Marcus Daniell and Michael Venus (tennis), Men’s Madison - Aaron Gate and Campbell Stewart (track cycling) men’s team pursuit track cycling team- Aaron Gate, Campbell Stewart, Corbin Strong, Jordan Kerby, Regan Gough –, New Zealand golf croquet team, New Zealand Long Blacks (long drive), OlyWhites (football), Peter Burling and Blair Tuke (sailing), rowing men’s eight, Silver Ferns (netball), women’s K2 500 - Lisa Carrington and Caitlin Regal (canoe racing), women’s pair Kerri Gowler and Grace Prendergast (rowing).

    Coach of the Year

    Aaron McIntosh (windsurfing), Allan Bunting and Cory Sweeney (rugby), Craig Palmer (track cycling), Dale Stevenson (athletics), Danny Hay (football), Gary Hollywood (swimming), Gary Stead (cricket), Gordon Walker (canoe racing), Nathan Luce (canoe racing), Roly Crichton (Para swimming), Sheldon Kemp (Para swimming), Tony O'Connor (rowing).

    Emerging Talent

    Connor Bell (athletics), Cool Wakushima (snowboarding), Devon Briggs (Para cycling), Erika Fairweather (swimming), George Snook (canoe slalom), Grace Nweke (netball), Luca Harrington (freestyle skiing), Marko Stamenic (football).

    And this should add to the weight of his nomination but undoubtedly he'll be ignored for the shortlist.

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    Tomorrow night 8pm….

    59th Halberg Awards finalists:

    Sportsman of the year: Hamish Bond (rowing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Dixon (motorsport).

    Sportswoman of the year: Courtney Duncan (motocross), Emma Twigg (rowing), Dame Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Lydia Ko (golf), Sarah Hirini (rugby sevens).

    Team of the year: Blackcaps (cricket), Black Ferns Sevens (rugby sevens), Emirates Team New Zealand (sailing), men's eight (rowing), women's pair Kerri Gowler and Grace Prendergast (rowing).

    Coach of the year: Allan Bunting and Corey Sweeney (Black Ferns Sevens), Gary Stead (Blackcaps), Gordon Walker (Lisa Carrington), Tony O'Connor (men's eight).

    Para athlete/team of the year: Anna Grimaldi (para athletics), Holly Robinson (para athletics), Lisa Adams (para athletics), Dame Sophie Pascoe (para swimming), Tupou Neiufi (para swimming).

    Emerging talent: Connor Bell (athletics), Cool Wakushima (snowboarding), Erika Fairweather (swimming), Grace Nweke (netball), Marko Stamenic (football).

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    No JMac is a fucking disgrace!!!
    Squash??? What is it, 1984?

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    @jk said in Halberg Awards:

    Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)

    If "Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)" is a real person, just give him (her/they?) the award already!

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @voodoo said in Halberg Awards:

    @jk said in Halberg Awards:

    Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)

    If "Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)" is a real person, just give him (her/they?) the award already!

    Japanese (born in Tokyo) and emigrated to NZ.

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  • MajorRageM Offline
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    @jk said in Halberg Awards:

    Tomorrow night 8pm….

    59th Halberg Awards finalists:

    Sportsman of the year: Hamish Bond (rowing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Dixon (motorsport).

    Multiple Olympican, Captain of a Team, 2nd best in world, didn't win last year.

    Can only be Bond or Multiple champion Israel Adesanaya.

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  • voodooV Offline
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    @gt12 said in Halberg Awards:

    @voodoo said in Halberg Awards:

    @jk said in Halberg Awards:

    Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)

    If "Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)" is a real person, just give him (her/they?) the award already!

    Japanese (born in Tokyo) and emigrated to NZ.

    Sounds Kiwi-as, good enough for me!

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  • JKJ Offline
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    @voodoo said in Halberg Awards:

    @jk said in Halberg Awards:

    Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)

    If "Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)" is a real person, just give him (her/they?) the award already!

    Not if you've actually seen them snowboard.

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  • MN5M Online
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    @voodoo said in Halberg Awards:

    @jk said in Halberg Awards:

    Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)

    If "Cool Wakushima (snowboarding)" is a real person, just give him (her/they?) the award already!

    I’ll second that. Round it out with the Black Caps, Stead, Kane Williamson and Lisa Carrington. Sorted.

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    Sportsman of the Year
    Aaron Gate (track cycling), Andy Maloney (sailing), Campbell Stewart (track cycling), Chris Wood (football), Corbin Strong (track cycling), David Nyika (boxing), Dylan Schmidt (gymnastics), Finn Butcher (canoe slalom), George Bennett (road cycling), Hamish Bond (rowing), Hayden Wilde (triathlon), James McDonald (horse-racing), Josh Junior (sailing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Lewis Clareburt (swimming), Nico Porteous (freeskiing), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Curry (Rugby Sevens), Scott Dixon (motorsport), Scott McLaughlin (motorsport), Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport), Tom Walsh (athletics).
    Para Athlete/Team of the Year
    Anna Grimaldi (Para athletics), Danielle Aitchison (Para athletics), Emma Foy & Hannah van Kampen (Para cycling), Holly Robinson (Para athletics), Lisa Adams (Para athletics), Nicole Murray (Para cycling), Sarah Ellington (Para cycling), Sophie Pascoe (Para swimming), Tupou Neiufi (Para swimming), Will Stedman (Para athletics).
    Sportswoman of the Year
    Alice Robinson (alpine ski racing), Courtney Duncan (motocross), Ellesse Andrews (track cycling), Emma Twigg (rowing), Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Luuka Jones (canoe slalom), Lydia Ko (golf), Mikayla Harvey (road cycling), Niamh Fisher-Black (road cycling), Sarah Hirini (rugby sevens), Ria Percival (football), Dame Valerie Adams (athletics), Zoi Sadowski-Synnott (snowboarding).
    Team of the Year
    Black Caps (cricket), Black Ferns Sevens (rugby sevens), Emirates Team New Zealand (sailing), Marcus Daniell and Michael Venus (tennis), Men’s Madison - Aaron Gate and Campbell Stewart (track cycling) men’s team pursuit track cycling team- Aaron Gate, Campbell Stewart, Corbin Strong, Jordan Kerby, Regan Gough –, New Zealand golf croquet team, New Zealand Long Blacks (long drive), OlyWhites (football), Peter Burling and Blair Tuke (sailing), rowing men’s eight, Silver Ferns (netball), women’s K2 500 - Lisa Carrington and Caitlin Regal (canoe racing), women’s pair Kerri Gowler and Grace Prendergast (rowing).
    Coach of the Year
    Aaron McIntosh (windsurfing), Allan Bunting and Cory Sweeney (rugby), Craig Palmer (track cycling), Dale Stevenson (athletics), Danny Hay (football), Gary Hollywood (swimming), Gary Stead (cricket), Gordon Walker (canoe racing), Nathan Luce (canoe racing), Roly Crichton (Para swimming), Sheldon Kemp (Para swimming), Tony O'Connor (rowing).
    Emerging Talent
    Connor Bell (athletics), Cool Wakushima (snowboarding), Devon Briggs (Para cycling), Erika Fairweather (swimming), George Snook (canoe slalom), Grace Nweke (netball), Luca Harrington (freestyle skiing), Marko Stamenic (football).

    Who I think they will go with bolded (couldn't decide between Black Caps and Black Fern Sevens)

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    I never know how they actually choose winners of this thing, but the Black Caps winning the WTC is a feat that is unlikely to be replicated. We were punching so far above our weight to win that thing it's not even funny. We'll probably win the T20 or ODI WC's at some point as there's so much luck involved there, but not the tests, that's where your depth of talent gets tested to the maximum.

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  • JKJ Offline
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    @crucial said in Halberg Awards:

    Sportsman of the Year
    Aaron Gate (track cycling), Andy Maloney (sailing), Campbell Stewart (track cycling), Chris Wood (football), Corbin Strong (track cycling), David Nyika (boxing), Dylan Schmidt (gymnastics), Finn Butcher (canoe slalom), George Bennett (road cycling), Hamish Bond (rowing), Hayden Wilde (triathlon), James McDonald (horse-racing), Josh Junior (sailing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Lewis Clareburt (swimming), Nico Porteous (freeskiing), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Curry (Rugby Sevens), Scott Dixon (motorsport), Scott McLaughlin (motorsport), Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport), Tom Walsh (athletics).
    Para Athlete/Team of the Year
    Anna Grimaldi (Para athletics), Danielle Aitchison (Para athletics), Emma Foy & Hannah van Kampen (Para cycling), Holly Robinson (Para athletics), Lisa Adams (Para athletics), Nicole Murray (Para cycling), Sarah Ellington (Para cycling), Sophie Pascoe (Para swimming), Tupou Neiufi (Para swimming), Will Stedman (Para athletics).
    Sportswoman of the Year
    Alice Robinson (alpine ski racing), Courtney Duncan (motocross), Ellesse Andrews (track cycling), Emma Twigg (rowing), Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Luuka Jones (canoe slalom), Lydia Ko (golf), Mikayla Harvey (road cycling), Niamh Fisher-Black (road cycling), Sarah Hirini (rugby sevens), Ria Percival (football), Dame Valerie Adams (athletics), Zoi Sadowski-Synnott (snowboarding).
    Team of the Year
    Black Caps (cricket), Black Ferns Sevens (rugby sevens), Emirates Team New Zealand (sailing), Marcus Daniell and Michael Venus (tennis), Men’s Madison - Aaron Gate and Campbell Stewart (track cycling) men’s team pursuit track cycling team- Aaron Gate, Campbell Stewart, Corbin Strong, Jordan Kerby, Regan Gough –, New Zealand golf croquet team, New Zealand Long Blacks (long drive), OlyWhites (football), Peter Burling and Blair Tuke (sailing), rowing men’s eight, Silver Ferns (netball), women’s K2 500 - Lisa Carrington and Caitlin Regal (canoe racing), women’s pair Kerri Gowler and Grace Prendergast (rowing).
    Coach of the Year
    Aaron McIntosh (windsurfing), Allan Bunting and Cory Sweeney (rugby), Craig Palmer (track cycling), Dale Stevenson (athletics), Danny Hay (football), Gary Hollywood (swimming), Gary Stead (cricket), Gordon Walker (canoe racing), Nathan Luce (canoe racing), Roly Crichton (Para swimming), Sheldon Kemp (Para swimming), Tony O'Connor (rowing).
    Emerging Talent
    Connor Bell (athletics), Cool Wakushima (snowboarding), Devon Briggs (Para cycling), Erika Fairweather (swimming), George Snook (canoe slalom), Grace Nweke (netball), Luca Harrington (freestyle skiing), Marko Stamenic (football).

    Who I think they will go with bolded (couldn't decide between Black Caps and Black Fern Sevens)

    Nico seems highly unlikely given he didn't even make the final for sportsmen of the year

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    @jk said in Halberg Awards:

    @crucial said in Halberg Awards:

    Sportsman of the Year
    Aaron Gate (track cycling), Andy Maloney (sailing), Campbell Stewart (track cycling), Chris Wood (football), Corbin Strong (track cycling), David Nyika (boxing), Dylan Schmidt (gymnastics), Finn Butcher (canoe slalom), George Bennett (road cycling), Hamish Bond (rowing), Hayden Wilde (triathlon), James McDonald (horse-racing), Josh Junior (sailing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Lewis Clareburt (swimming), Nico Porteous (freeskiing), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Curry (Rugby Sevens), Scott Dixon (motorsport), Scott McLaughlin (motorsport), Shane van Gisbergen (motorsport), Tom Walsh (athletics).
    Para Athlete/Team of the Year
    Anna Grimaldi (Para athletics), Danielle Aitchison (Para athletics), Emma Foy & Hannah van Kampen (Para cycling), Holly Robinson (Para athletics), Lisa Adams (Para athletics), Nicole Murray (Para cycling), Sarah Ellington (Para cycling), Sophie Pascoe (Para swimming), Tupou Neiufi (Para swimming), Will Stedman (Para athletics).
    Sportswoman of the Year
    Alice Robinson (alpine ski racing), Courtney Duncan (motocross), Ellesse Andrews (track cycling), Emma Twigg (rowing), Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Luuka Jones (canoe slalom), Lydia Ko (golf), Mikayla Harvey (road cycling), Niamh Fisher-Black (road cycling), Sarah Hirini (rugby sevens), Ria Percival (football), Dame Valerie Adams (athletics), Zoi Sadowski-Synnott (snowboarding).
    Team of the Year
    Black Caps (cricket), Black Ferns Sevens (rugby sevens), Emirates Team New Zealand (sailing), Marcus Daniell and Michael Venus (tennis), Men’s Madison - Aaron Gate and Campbell Stewart (track cycling) men’s team pursuit track cycling team- Aaron Gate, Campbell Stewart, Corbin Strong, Jordan Kerby, Regan Gough –, New Zealand golf croquet team, New Zealand Long Blacks (long drive), OlyWhites (football), Peter Burling and Blair Tuke (sailing), rowing men’s eight, Silver Ferns (netball), women’s K2 500 - Lisa Carrington and Caitlin Regal (canoe racing), women’s pair Kerri Gowler and Grace Prendergast (rowing).
    Coach of the Year
    Aaron McIntosh (windsurfing), Allan Bunting and Cory Sweeney (rugby), Craig Palmer (track cycling), Dale Stevenson (athletics), Danny Hay (football), Gary Hollywood (swimming), Gary Stead (cricket), Gordon Walker (canoe racing), Nathan Luce (canoe racing), Roly Crichton (Para swimming), Sheldon Kemp (Para swimming), Tony O'Connor (rowing).
    Emerging Talent
    Connor Bell (athletics), Cool Wakushima (snowboarding), Devon Briggs (Para cycling), Erika Fairweather (swimming), George Snook (canoe slalom), Grace Nweke (netball), Luca Harrington (freestyle skiing), Marko Stamenic (football).

    Who I think they will go with bolded (couldn't decide between Black Caps and Black Fern Sevens)

    Nico seems highly unlikely given he didn't even make the final for sportsmen of the year

    Ah. I was looking at the nominees! OK will re-think.

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    59th Halberg Awards finalists:

    Sportsman of the year: Hamish Bond (rowing), Kane Williamson (cricket), Paul Coll (squash), Scott Dixon (motorsport).

    Sportswoman of the year: Courtney Duncan (motocross), Emma Twigg (rowing), Dame Lisa Carrington (canoe racing), Lydia Ko (golf), Sarah Hirini (rugby sevens).

    Team of the year: Blackcaps (cricket), Black Ferns Sevens (rugby sevens), Emirates Team New Zealand (sailing), men's eight (rowing), women's pair Kerri Gowler and Grace Prendergast (rowing).

    Coach of the year: Allan Bunting and Corey Sweeney (Black Ferns Sevens), Gary Stead (Blackcaps), Gordon Walker (Lisa Carrington), Tony O'Connor (men's eight).

    Para athlete/team of the year: Anna Grimaldi (para athletics), Holly Robinson (para athletics), Lisa Adams (para athletics), Dame Sophie Pascoe (para swimming), Tupou Neiufi (para swimming).

    Emerging talent: Connor Bell (athletics), Cool Wakushima (snowboarding), Erika Fairweather (swimming), Grace Nweke (netball), Marko Stamenic (football).

    There you go. Re-done

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    Expect Nico and Zoi to feature next year as these awards are for the sporting year from 1 December 2019 to 30 November 2021.

    Olympic gold medallists usually win in an Olympic year so the likes of Bond, Carrington and the eights will be a good pick. The team will be the hardest to decide.

    Stamenic or Fairweather for Emerging Talent.

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    Yeah I think team is definitely the hardest to pick. All very notable achievements.

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