Foster, Robertson etc
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@akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@akan004 so what exactly is Foster seeing in our defence that us, opposition and the scoreboard can't?
learnings.
My learning is that this word fits all sorts of situations, although her indoors doesn't seem to like it. -
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@TheMojoman said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Bovidae said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@BerniesCorner But if Robertson doesn't want the job now?
He can afford to be patient. If Foster miraculously turns things around the job will be his in 2024. If not the job will be his sooner.
And if we do pretty well at RWC2023, you really can't see NZR getting rid of a coach who brought the AB's back from a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later, can you?
So you think Foster will want to continue on after 2023, win or lose? I doubt it - he will have had 12 years with ABs by that stage
Well, that too. But I was being a bit ironic with my post.
Imagine the meltdown on here if NZR extended him thru to 2027...
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@taniwharugby said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
a disastrous home series against Ireland in '22, to a decent result in France a year later
what is a decent result?
For me, a 'decent result' is losing finalist, only one better than a decent result to me.
I was being a touch ironic, but a good result would be getting to the Finals I guess.
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Well another bloody cop out.
What I am struggling to come to grips with, is that if Feek "didn't review favourably" at the end of 2021 - what is he still doing there and why are the ABs prepare to carry such a dead weight??
Also if Foster is so "accountable" why doesn't he just do the honourable thing and resign??
Honestly that stand-up presser by him was a joke. It was full of stuttering and halting sentences and trademark give away body language "tells" that just screamed he wasn't remotely comfortable. That godawful line "I am the ABs head coach" blah blah rhetoric - who was he trying to convince?? Himself?? The fans?? The fish heads at NZ rugby?? The public at large?? Beacause I dont think for one damn minute any of those groups have any kind of belief in him. And if he really felt so "accountable" he would have been long gone.
Its pathetic getting rid of only two assistants. What about McCleod?? What about Feek?? They all need to get gone. They say the captain always goes down with the sinking ship. By all acounts not long now me hearties. -
@The-Docter said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Victor-Meldrew I wish they had all gone. But shall we at least give the new set up a chance?
Until the EOYT and some significant improvement in the RC.
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People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
Imagine the meltdown on here if NZR extended him thru to 2027...
Well, I'm getting mentally prepared for it.
I half expect Foster to move on, but Robertson to not be appointed. That has been, after all, the NZR way for decades now.
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@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
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@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going
There's a lot of talk in that about belief in the direction, and we're going in the right (correct) direction. Yup the player's and coaches all have a rock solid belief that the only way is down, and that's the right way.
Such arse PR speak
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@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
Down the toilet.
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@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
Down the toilet.
Honestly speaking, with Ryan and Schmidt there, you’re not feeling better?
The defence is still a problem, but assuming we get Schmidt’s input there, and a new attack coach, we should be in much better shape.
Would I still prefer Razor there?
Yes, but this is the response I expected.
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@KiwiMurph
Regarding the Breakdown.
Really disappointed with their output lately. Even when there is debate around selection for a certain position they rarely stick their neck out and say "player X should be the number 12" etc etc. They just go round the houses naming the qualities of every player so as not to offend anyone. Real light touch punditry. A microsm of modern life. Everyone gets a medal and no one gets criticised.As has been said in other threads from the top down, The NZRU, The coaches, The players, The pundits are not ruthless enough anymore.
NZ and by extension the Allblacks have been falling over themselves not to be seen as arrogant and to be everyones friends.
Watching the captain meme'd as a laughing stock being told "he is a shit Richie McCaw" and its just taken on the chin from all quarters (including on the field at the time) is indicative of malaise.
The "woke blacks".
Get out there in South Africa and start climbing into the Boer Kunts.
Pick and fucking go.
Big Dick energy.
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@gt12 said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@Chris said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
@nostrildamus said in Foster must go / Assistant Coach changes:
People worried that Ian Foster isn't seeing Dunsinane for the trees should avoid reading this article
“We’ve still got a strong belief in the direction we’re going and just because it didn’t come together as quickly as we wanted, it’s not the first time we’ve been slow starters in July. I hate saying that, but it is reality.Can someone enlighten me on this direction that Mr Foster is talking about?
Down the toilet.
Honestly speaking, with Ryan and Schmidt there, you’re not feeling better?
The defence is still a problem, but assuming we get Schmidt’s input there, and a new attack coach, we should be in much better shape.
Would I still prefer Razor there?
Yes, but this is the response I expected.
If Foster gets to take a back seat, and lets Schmidt and Ryan try to tighten things up? They might be able to stop the bleeding
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The elephant in the room. Been outsourcing all the IP around the world for the last decade. Players like Piutau, Luatua, and Vito are better than some of the shite we have been utilising in their positions over the last few years too.
I would have told O'Gara to fuck right off if his CV landed on my desk, but hey ho, we are upskilling the future Ireland coach and giving him a behind the scenes tour at how our best club and its conveyor belt of talent operates.
