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    @MN5 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    I honestly believe the NZR will as always appoint the man they rightly or wrongly believe has the skills and experience to do job.

    I think you may be the one person on here that sincerely believes that.

    And do they say winning super rugby is more important than bringing up a team to 5th place in World cup, who knows, not me anyway.

    Our aim is to world cups, I want a coach who is known for getting his team across the line consistently in knock-out matches.

    Jamie Joseph had arguably the best NPC team at Wellington for multiple seasons and they could never get across the line at the end when it really mattered and claim titles. They had arguably the best talent coming through in most positions.

    In his 6 seasons, the Highlanders finished 11th, 9th, 14th, 5th, 1st, 5th. 53% win-rate.

    Not a bad record, but not particularly outstanding either.

    Fake news. Dixon never scored that try.

    We was robbed

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    replied to kiwi_expat on last edited by
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    @kiwi_expat Yep well tell me about Hansen's record outside of ABs? And Deans who was and still is incredibly successful at super and now league one in Japan. I will leave it to experts to work out what is best.

    I surprised that everyone (apart from me) thinks NZR don't select who they think is best for job ( rightly or wrongly) as you say.. Why do they select coaches?

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    replied to kiwi_expat on last edited by
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    @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    I think you may be the one person on here that sincerely believes that.

    I'm struggling with your point here. Please explain?

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    I just started reading this thread again,It really has nothing new does it, rehashing the old stuff.
    As long as the coach is new with fresh ideas and revitalises things I am good with whoever the NZR select as long as we have change.

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    replied to Dan54 on last edited by kiwi_expat
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    @Dan54 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @kiwi_expat Yep well tell me about Hansen's record outside of ABs? And Deans who was and still is incredibly successful at super and now league one in Japan. I will leave it to experts to work out what is best.

    And Foster was an unmitigated disaster at Super Rugby level which is why he should never have been allowed anywhere near the All Blacks head coach role. It's only the appointment of Schmidt and Ryan that saved his skin and allowed him to escape the season with a still historically poor 4 losses. Would have been 5, if not for that French referee in Bledisloe II, and the draw with England was a fittingly dismal end to the year.

    At least having Foster as AB coach has done wonders for my blood pressure. I go into most big matches half expecting to lose these days so it's much easier to take when the inevitable poor performances unfold.

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    Hmmm 🤔

    Sport, Rugby

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    His sudden resignation, seven months out from the World Cup, comes as a major surprise.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Hmmm 🤔

    Sport, Rugby

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    His sudden resignation, seven months out from the World Cup, comes as a major surprise.

    it was DESTINED!!!!! This has been coming since 2004

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Hmmm 🤔

    Sport, Rugby

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    His sudden resignation, seven months out from the World Cup, comes as a major surprise.

    it was DESTINED!!!!! This has been coming since 2004

    The messiah returns!..Joe Schmidt must have asked nicely

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    replied to bayimports on last edited by
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    @bayimports said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Hmmm 🤔

    Sport, Rugby

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup

    His sudden resignation, seven months out from the World Cup, comes as a major surprise.

    it was DESTINED!!!!! This has been coming since 2004

    The messiah returns!..Joe Schmidt must have asked nicely

    Wayne Ormond is dusting off his boots to fix the gaping hole we have at 6.

    Fuck yes, it's on now fluffybunnies

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    NZR should lend Razor to Fiji for the year, he can get some international and RWC experience all in one go before taking over the ABs next year.

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    wrote on last edited by Asterik6
    #4727

    Has Vern ever coached defence before? Maybe he could join All Blacks for the World Cup, replacing Scott McLeod.

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    Rennie could be a good fit for Fiji although if Cotter's reasons are more around Fiji Rugby rather than as stated then it will be a difficult job to fill with quality.
    Fiji have occasionally looked like really stepping up especially when they are allowed to draw on NH players.

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    @Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.

    Forgot that. Of course Oz would be in fear of losing to Fiji (again)

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    The Black Ferns need a new head coach, too (Whitney Hansen has declined the promotion, I think).

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
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    @Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    The Black Ferns need a new head coach, too (Whitney Hansen has declined the promotion, I think).

    She has said she isn't ready yet (which is a little different as she did so before being asked).

    The money is on Alan Bunting who appears to have ditched his Manawa job in anticipation.
    Either he will be announced before Aupiki so everyone knows who they are trying to impress and he can do his job openly from the stands as a selector, or it will be kept under wraps to not distract from the comp.
    I understand that there are a number of BF pro contract places becoming available (numbers are capped) so selection identification is going to be very important. I am picking that assistants stay they same although possibly Aupiki coaches will be being judged as well.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.

    Rennie is also out of the running for the AB job too (according to Newshub). He isn't going to return to SR first, NZR.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial Forgot about Bunting! 🤦🏽♂ Great coach!

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
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    @Bovidae er, not sure im reading you right, so now a coach needs international experience and then to return to Super first?

    Not sure anyone ticks that list...

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
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    @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.

    Rennie is also out of the running for the AB job too (according to Newshub). He isn't going to return to SR first, NZR.

    That is mind blowing if that is now a requirement to be AB coach.
    Doesn't that rule out Joseph and Cotter ?.

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