Star link
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Who’s got it? I panic ourchased it this morning to try something different for the farm and it seems cheap enough.
If you haven’t got it, I don’t really care about your thoughts on it, that’s your own shit. I’m interested in how good or bad it is for those that use it.
Cheers
Hooroo
Edit. There prolly another thread on this but fucked if I could find it.
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I haven't got it, but know several off the grid, one mobile worker, and a couple just in the wop wops who think it rocks. Obviously it is twice the price for a fifth the speed of fibre, but if you can't get fibre they have all said it's great. It's 3 to 6 times faster than mobile broadband that people are being suckered in by Vodafone etc to use. Waste of time that is.
We are also building some emergency comms packs for the disasters like the cyclone, when we have entire parts of our region without power, or internet, of any sort. So will get to see it first hand soon
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@Crucial had it installed recently:
@Crucial said in internet/streaming:
Got the Starlink set up the other day and very impressed. Was getting 260/40 after only an hour of self optimising (and that's with a 95% unobstructed view).
The kit is way cool. Plug and play but it is a continuously self aligning 'dish' that drives itself to keep the connection optimised.I am at a temporary site at the moment but when we move to the new property it will have an even better open sky view and I will also get the ethernet adapter so that I can run a mesh off it.
Early days but recommended.
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@Machpants said in Star link:
Obviously it is twice the price for a fifth the speed of fibre,
Not sure where that sort of info comes from but certainly not true for me. I'm on fibre at work and Starlink at home, the Starlink usually outperforms the fibre (just). Had it for about 10 months.
Speed may change when more people sign up, esp now that they have halved the price of a kit (bastards - I had just bought a second one for somewhere else). Simple to set up. Easy to mesh if you need some range.
Some minor issues with repeated brownouts or powercuts putting it into "stinky" mode and losing the Wifi network name but it's no big deal to re enter it with the same password so that you don't have to change every device. That is also Vectors fault really not Starlink's.
In short it's been really good or I wouldn't have bought a second one.
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@Machpants said in Star link:
Obviously it is twice the price for a fifth the speed of fibre,
Not sure where that sort of info comes from but certainly not true for me. I'm on fibre at work and Starlink at home, the Starlink usually outperforms the fibre (just). Had it for about 10 months.
Speed may change when more people sign up, esp now that they have halved the price of a kit (bastards - I had just bought a second one for somewhere else). Simple to set up. Easy to mesh if you need some range.
Some minor issues with repeated brownouts or powercuts putting it into "stinky" mode and losing the Wifi network name but it's no big deal to re enter it with the same password so that you don't have to change every device. That is also Vectors fault really not Starlink's.
In short it's been really good or I wouldn't have bought a second one.
You pay $90 for gig fibre, 1000Mbps. You pay $190 for starlink which is 100-200Mbps on average, although it can get almost 400. Fibre out performs all other internet speeds, by miles, I can get 4000Mbps for $160 per month. If I want to pay for it, I can get 8000Mbps fibre, even here on the coast.
Edit: base fibre is comparable speeds to starlink, but much less variation
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@Machpants said in Star link:
Edit: base fibre is comparable speeds to starlink, but much less variation
Probably why mine are the same for speed. Assume that @hooroo can't get fibre anyway but if he could, would have base fibre like most people and therefore the same sorts of speed as me I guess.
I pay $159inc for starlink (not $190) and $119inc for fibre (not $90 but might just be my plan). Both are unlimited use. So again, not sure where you get your numbers from? Hooroo asked for actual experience with it.
That is what I pay and the speeds I get for each. Neither twice the price, nor a fifth of the speed.
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@Snowy Yup I realise he asked for actual experience, I was putting in some background info about what you are paying for. If you can't get fibre then star link is the next best. But it is expensive. My personal experience is lots of people I know with it, and it's the best they can get, and also mobile trialling it at work. If you can't get fibre and can afford it, it is a no brainer
Starlink NZ is normally $1050 install (there is a rural deal ATM for $200 ATM) and $160 per month - my mistake I thought it was $190.
My current provider is My Republic, I pay less than this (89) as it is grandfathered but ~90 per month for gig broadband with no contract is normal. And no installation costs at all.
If I paid the same as starlink I'd get
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I'm on a rural property in Victoria so only shit NBN so went with Starlink. I get around 200MB Down and 15MB Up which is about 10 times faster down than what I was getting. Simple install and just works. I do wish up was a bit faster as I upload a fair bit but happy enough so far.
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@Snowy correct. I can’t get fibre. Doing some wifi type connection from the hills. Average.
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@Hooroo I couldn't get fibre either. The VDSL was slow as a really fucking slow thing, if it even worked, did mobile for a while was as you say, average.
So yeah starlink has been really good. Streaming , working from home all doable now. It did cost me $1040 to set up (twice), so I am well pissed off about the price reductions for the kits, but I do have decent internet now so I live with it. If you can get it for $199 (kit) it is likely worth it for you. Actually it doesn't sound like you have much choice (and they look cool when they launch them too).
Edit: Noel Leeming are doing the kits for $199 and it doesn't even mention rural so you could be on a winner.
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Easily the best option if in a non-fibre area.
God send for us as it allows us to work in our Welly jobs while sitting in rural Central Otago.@Snowy , base fibre in NZ is now 300 to the ONT. If you are getting sub 100 it could be your wifi gear/mesh. Some only have 100 ethernet ports for the backhaul to the modem. I had the same but easily solved without replacing the whole kit if you have a mesh like Deco. just buy one unit with the 1gig port and turn that into your master. The wireless connection for the others will all run at that speed it is just the backhaul port that is limited.
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@Machpants said in Star link:
As an aside, ex Vodafone are going to be using starlink for 100% mobile coverage from next year
Media have jumped all over that in a PR dream for Voda.
It will be for SMS only for quite some time. Still better than being completely cut off if broken down in a dead spot area but not what the headlines say. Good they are heading down that road though. -
@Machpants said in Star link:
As an aside, ex Vodafone are going to be using starlink for 100% mobile coverage from next year
Media have jumped all over that in a PR dream for Voda.
It will be for SMS only for quite some time. Still better than being completely cut off if broken down in a dead spot area but not what the headlines say. Good they are heading down that road though.It's like the T-Mobile plan in the states, you can call for help no matter where you are. Huge.
And the new Vodafone entity have been pretty clear what the roll out plan is for the voice side of things, from memory Starlink needs the V2 satellites with the lasers to get that working.
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@Machpants said in Star link:
As an aside, ex Vodafone are going to be using starlink for 100% mobile coverage from next year
Media have jumped all over that in a PR dream for Voda.
It will be for SMS only for quite some time. Still better than being completely cut off if broken down in a dead spot area but not what the headlines say. Good they are heading down that road though.It's like the T-Mobile plan in the states, you can call for help no matter where you are. Huge.
And the new Vodafone entity have been pretty clear what the roll out plan is for the voice side of things, from memory Starlink needs the V2 satellites with the lasers to get that working.
Voda have been clear, absolutely. It is lazy journos that haven't.
Can't believe how many people said to me yesterday " I see that all our mobiles will be satellite connected next year" thinking they will be able to use them fully, everywhere. -
@taniwharugby said in Star link:
Starlink needs the V2 satellites with the lasers
sounds so absurd
Living in the future man!
Even better, they are waiting on the Starship with pez dispenser to launch those in bulk.