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  • HigginsH Offline
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    @Chris said in Moana Pasifika 2023:

    @Higgins
    End of this season I think.

    Wonder if he will have to come up with some compensatory cash payment for Moana Pasifika to buy his way out the final year of his contract?

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    @Higgins
    Probably part of the deal for him to resigned.Although it looks like Moana has pushed him out.

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    Here's the stuff article, which is not hidden behind a pay-wall:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/132105129/aaron-mauger-resigns-as-moana-pasifika-coach-but-will-stay-on-for-remainder-of-season

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    Didn't Mauger have problems with players at the Highlanders too?

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    I'll give him the benefit of doubt that negative player feedback probably stems from frustration more than anything. A few senior players have experienced top coaches and can compare. Mauger isn't that good a coach, never has been.
    He seemed to make a lot of effort to absorb into the cultural aspect but poor results and a lack of growth will create ructions and frustration among players that aren't seeing personal growth.
    Is Tiatia an option to step up?

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    Wonder if someone like Toutai Kefu comes into contention.

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    I've been saying all season Mauger is a donkey of a coach so this is welcome news.

    If there's not a decent PI coach they should try and grab someone like Ozich who is good working with PIs despite not being PI.

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    Official statement:

    Joint statement from Head Coach Aaron Mauger and Chair La’auli Savae Sir Michael Jones of Moana Pasifika – Moana Pasifika
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    From what Newshub said, the problems at MP are far greater than Mauger. Video in article below.

    Stuff
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    I remember when Mauger got the gig reading an article that he was slightly reluntant as he wasn't sure it was what he was really aiming for ie coaching at Super level and being away from family.

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    Players refusing to re-sign while Mauger was there.

    ZB

    Rugby Direct: Coach Aaron Mauger to depart Moana Pasifika

    Rugby Direct: Coach Aaron Mauger to depart Moana Pasifika

    This week on Rugby Direct, Elliott and Liam discuss the breaking news out of Moana Pasifika that coach Aaron Mauger has resigned as head coach and won't be

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    A paywalled article in the herald mentions Pasifika are investigating playing fewer games at Mt Smart. The cost of hiring the venue is high and they've had tiny crowds

    Next year their may only be two games at Mt Smart. Other home game possibilities were the islands, Henderson & Whangarei. Napier was mentioned but sounded less likely

    Just base the team in the islands. It's the only chance of success

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    I'm sure Northland rugby supporters would find it ironic that the next long-awaited Super game they host could be MP versus the Blues...

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    Is the stadium in Nukuʻalofa up to standard now? Otherwise the only option is Samoa as their base.

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    @Bovidae I found this comment interesting: "I would like to think that the combination of Moana Pasifika, plus Fijian Drua, is bringing in fresh elements to rugby, that it's enabling us to provide a better product," he said.

    Good to see Pacific Islanders finally getting interested in the game.

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    @Pepe said in Moana Pasifika 2023:

    I'm sure Northland rugby supporters would find it ironic that the next long-awaited Super game they host could be MP versus the Blues...

    It will be against rebels or force or something, blues will be one of the few at Mt smart

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    Part of the reason for the success of the Drua is the home base being in Fiji. More complicated with the composite nature of Moana Pasifika, but it should start somewhere. It's got be the point of these teams right? Improve the intrastructure and exposure of Rugby in the islands and make staying in this part of the world a viable sporting career?

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    @Kirwan Yeah, but there's a big difference between the Drua and MP: the majority of the Drua players are actually from Fiji. Most MP players were born and raised in NZ, and have their families here. Plenty of MP players who aren't from the Auckland area go back to their home province on a regular basis, which will become more difficult if they're based in - say - Apia.

    Unless there are a lot of Miracle Fai'ilagi's to be discovered in the Islands, MP will have a hard time filling its squad with players who have come through the system locally (in the Islands).

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    @Stargazer that's why I said "this part of the world" as opposed to be being in the islands. I know they have to be based in Auckland, but if they can't even have a handful of games in Samoa or Tonga then what exactly is the point of this team?

    Drua and Fiji is a clear story, fanbase, development path.

    MP being a second Auckland team is just diluting the Blues, it needs to have stronger links to the islands. If it's just being filled with NZ born PI players how does that help NZ Rugby or Samoa and Tonga?

    On a parallel path, they should be trying to get more Northen Hemishere based players back over this way. We are much better than their clubs for releasing players back to International Teams, that would have a huge effect on the strength of those teams.

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    @Kirwan said in Moana Pasifika 2023:

    I know they have to be based in Auckland, but if they can't even have a handful of games in Samoa or Tonga then what exactly is the point of this team?

    The Mt Smart games have been a failure.

    Perhaps for the games in NZ they should have a financial arrangement with the Blues, and maybe Canes, to have double headers at Eden Park/The Cake Tin?

    Of course that would require co-ordination when the draw is created

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