Ashes 2023
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M. Marsh, 3 overs 1/9 was strangely underbowled on Day 2.
With Stokes and co trying to bash everything after lunch, I wondered if it might be better to throw the ball to a T20 expert first, ahead of an early career offspinner, once Starc and Cummins started leaking runs.
Credit to Murphy as he got Stokes in the end though.
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@sparky said in Ashes 2023:
I think Australia will be the happier of the sides. England will struggle to chase down anything much over 200.
Recent history would suggest otherwise
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Rain delay
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Oz 206-8. This pair putting on 30 or so runs to give a lead of 233. Could be gold dust.
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Won’t get a better opportunity to keep the series alive
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@MiketheSnow said in Ashes 2023:
Won’t get a better opportunity to keep the series alive
Yep, great opportunity for England.
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I'd go about 70/30 in favour of England from here, possibly higher. They've chased well over the last two seasons.
If Australia don't get an early breakthrough in the weather conditions, Cummins will have to come up with more imaginative captaincy than he's shown so far. Not enough runs in the bank to buy wickets from here against the likes of Stokes and Root.
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@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2023:
I'd go about 70/30 in favour of England from here, possibly higher. They've chased well over the last two seasons.
If Australia don't get an early breakthrough in the weather conditions, Cummins will have to come up with more imaginative captaincy than he's shown so far. Not enough runs in the bank to buy wickets from here against the likes of Stokes and Root.
Fair enough but I still ( perhaps unfairly ) factor in Englands ability to fuck up and collapse like no one else.
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@MN5 said in Ashes 2023:
@Donsteppa said in Ashes 2023:
I'd go about 70/30 in favour of England from here, possibly higher. They've chased well over the last two seasons.
If Australia don't get an early breakthrough in the weather conditions, Cummins will have to come up with more imaginative captaincy than he's shown so far. Not enough runs in the bank to buy wickets from here against the likes of Stokes and Root.
Fair enough but I still ( perhaps unfairly ) factor in Englands ability to fuck up and collapse like no one else.
I changed my mind on the odds about three times. For about 12 months England looked imperious in any Test Match chase. But in this series both sides have been generous at handing back good positions to the opposition...
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England definitely got the best of the conditions in that short day - cloudy and the ball zipping around for when they bowled and the sunny for their short spell of batting at the end. If it is sunny tomorrow, they should get the target comfortably - but a couple of early wickets and who knows.
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If you had to pick a position to be in you'd for sure rather be chasing 224 than defending it. Early wickets will be key for Australia. This has been a super weird test so I'm not sure anything will surprise me much. Maybe I'll pick the third ever tied test.
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On the BBC website coverage there is a great picture of Crawley an Duckett running between the wickets. It looks like a Dads v Boys match. 😂
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@nzzp said in Ashes 2023:
@Machpants said in Ashes 2023:
I'm not bitter, I just hate cheats.
So, with absolutism you'd include Martin Crowe and Chris Pringle on your hate list? They took a bottle cap on the field to scratch the ball up
As well as Atherton of course, with the dirt in the pocket.
100% it's been par for the course in professional cricket for ever. Wasim and Waqar wouldn't have the records they have without a bit (a lot) of tampering that's for sure, and they are renowned as all time greats. You're going to pretty much rule out the majority of players gone by with that stance.
That 'sandpaper gate' appears to have put a stop to it though, reverse swing certainly doesn't seem as prevalent as it was does it?
Edit - snap, read your next post re: reverse swing
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@No-Quarter said in Ashes 2023:
@nzzp said in Ashes 2023:
@Machpants said in Ashes 2023:
I'm not bitter, I just hate cheats.
So, with absolutism you'd include Martin Crowe and Chris Pringle on your hate list? They took a bottle cap on the field to scratch the ball up
As well as Atherton of course, with the dirt in the pocket.
100% it's been par for the course in professional cricket for ever. Wasim and Waqar wouldn't have the records they have without a bit (a lot) of tampering that's for sure, and they are renowned as all time greats. You're going to pretty much rule out the majority of players gone by with that stance.
That 'sandpaper gate' appears to have put a stop to it though, reverse swing certainly doesn't seem as prevalent as it was does it?
Edit - snap, read your next post re: reverse swing
Great example. No record of Curtley and Courtney resorting to that nonsense, does that make them better ?
