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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="599697" data-time="1469328462">
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    <p><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;">There shouldn't be a hatiest team full stop.</span></p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Someone doesn't live surrounded by Brumbies supporters.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="599697" data-time="1469328462">
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    <p><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;">The Crusaders seem to cop it more than - for example - the Blues, which probably says more about the quantity and one-eyed-ness of Ferners than the quality of the teams/players. If someone is overly negative about the Chiefs or one of their players, there are plenty of people responding & offering different views. When it's the Crusaders, not so much. Which is still my big question after less than a year on the Fern: why are the Crusaders the "hatiest team" on the Fern? Why not the Highlanders (who before last year weren't great and their supporters are not in great numbers on the Fern)? And no, I'm not suggesting that the Landers should be the hatiest team. There shouldn't be a hatiest team full stop.</span></p>
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    <p>Simple, dominance.  The Saders are the last kiwi side to dominate the comp for an extended period of time.  When they won their first 5-6 titles, they were unstoppable and massively dominant.  That bred a certain 'confidence' in some of their fans, which translated into a reaction in real life and online.</p>
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    <p>Before the Crusaders, it was the Great Auckland Side of the Eighties and Nineties who were So Good I Have To Use Capitals.  Auckland haven't been a force for about 20 years, and so there isn't a simmering resentment at being taken to the cleaners over and over and over and over again.</p>
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    <p>There are also some one eyed, vocal Crusader supporters who harbour a siege mentality and this doesn't help the cause.  </p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="599698" data-time="1469328549">
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    <p>Someone doesn't live surrounded by Brumbies supporters.</p>
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    <p>Are you suggesting that the Crusaders are the hatiest team because of their supporters? Isn't it pathetic that the attitude etc of supporters reflects on their team?</p>

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    I don't think people hate the Crusaders, but a very vocal minority of fans have done a hell of a lot to put noses out of joint on this forum for a number of years. That's very unfair, because there are some great Crusaders fan here, but vocal twats always ruin it for the good guys.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="599702" data-time="1469328759">
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    <p>Are you suggesting that the Crusaders are the hatiest team because of their supporters? Isn't it pathetic that the attitude etc of supporters reflects on their team?</p>
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    <p>No I was responding to your claim by pointing out I take perverse pleasure in seeing the Brumbies fail because of their fans. So if the cap fits for those around Christchurch, then they should wear it. There's a reason stereotypes exist.</p>

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    <p>Blues supporter, but with them out am backing Chiefs because they play rugby which makes you want to jump out of your seat.</p>
    <p>What irony that an extra bonus point against clan would have had them staying in SA.</p>

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    <p>Blues supporter, but with them out am backing Chiefs because they play rugby which makes you want to jump out of your seat.</p>
    <p>What irony that an extra bonus point against clan would have had them staying in SA.</p>
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    <p>Similarly, the BP the Crusaders threw away in Suva ended up costing them a trip to Cape Town instead of Jo'burg.</p>

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    Great by Chiefs but really puts into question the credibility of the tournament that the Stormers got a home field play off without playing a NZ team and then get their butts kicked like this at home?

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    <p>Does anyone know when the chiefs fly back, is it today?</p>
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    <p>Arrive on Tuesday NZT.  The Chiefs got the first available flight back from SA, while the Crusaders were forced to wait for the next flight.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="DMX" data-cid="599868" data-time="1469373214">
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    <p>Great by Chiefs but really puts into question the credibility of the tournament that the Stormers got a home field play off without playing a NZ team and then get their butts kicked like this at home?</p>
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    <p>although, there is also an argument that there is nothing wrong when you look at the 4 teams that are in the semi's....and I expect this will be the line SANZAR will take.</p>

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    Except for the issue of where the games are being played and the travel of teams leading up to this week's semis.

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    <p>Arrive on Tuesday NZT. <strong> The Chiefs got the first available flight back from SA,</strong> <strong>while the Crusaders were forced to wait for the next flight.</strong></p>
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    <p>Fair enough too. </p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="599879" data-time="1469392155"><p>Arrive on Tuesday NZT.  The Chiefs got the first available flight back from SA, while the Crusaders were forced to wait for the next flight.</p></blockquote><br>Thanks for this.

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt;">Why not the Highlanders (who before last year weren't great and their supporters are not in great numbers on the Fern)? And no, I'm not suggesting that the Landers should be the hatiest team. There shouldn't be a hatiest team full stop.</span></blockquote>
    <p>I'm not sure if this is a hybrid rant/explanation/whinge/excuse but it is great. I suspect the Highlanders don't get that many heckles because for 3012 decades (your calculations may vary) they have been the sterotypical try really hard but don't quite have the money to get big guns to clinch it at the end types. Plus they elected to stay there and be loyal :whistle: <span style="font-size:8px;">Mr Richard Hugh McCaw :whistle:</span></p>

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    <p>Who did they lose? Canes lost Nonu, Smith, Thrush and Franks off the top off my head. NMS out injured for the entire season too. Are they in a "rebuilding" year as well?<br><br>
    What a cop out of an excuse. They just needed a semi compenent game plan with their pack, but Toddy proved how shit he is as a coach yet again. I feel for Saders fans putting him with him for so long.<br><br>
    On the Chiefs - bloody well played! Squad ravaged by injuries but Rennie has made no excuses and has them firing at the business end of the season. D Mac looks back to his best following the break, think his time in the AB camp has really helped.<br><br>
    Canes v Chiefs is going to he a cracker if both teams play like they did this weekend.</p>
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    <p> You may add Broadhurst to this list.</p>

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