Steve Hansen extends contract
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At least Foster won't be getting the reigns any time soon!
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">'Finishing what he started' is the theme and after taking the current regime through to a 52-3 (plus two draws) record, Hansen has the best stats of any All Blacks coach.
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<p>Article on All Blacks website: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.allblacks.com/News/29499/steve-hansen-reappointed-as-all-blacks-head-coach'>http://www.allblacks.com/News/29499/steve-hansen-reappointed-as-all-blacks-head-coach</a></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="599933" data-time="1469405255">
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<p>Disppointing, NZRU! Where's your sense of challenge!!</p>
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<p>A Fern collective of selectors would have made it interesting!</p> -
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<p>A Fern collective of selectors would have made it interesting!</p>
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<p>I'm waiting for Hansen to aknowledge us as a key source of info re: selections and game plans during his tenure.</p> -
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<p>Any <u>living</u> ABs coach.</p>
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<p>52-3.. that is fucking outrageous stuff.</p> -
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<p>Any <u>living</u> ABs coach.</p>
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<p>Controversial, perhaps, but I'd argue for Steveo to be up there, if not on top. The Needle had a perfect record, but only over 3 years and 14 tests.</p>
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<p>In his first year as Coach, Steve's ABs went unbeaten until their 14th game (although with a draw). Steve has had extended success, over 4 1/2 years. 3 losses in that time is, frankly, incredible and given the competition I think exceeds the short but brilliant coaching career of the Needle.</p>
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<p>For the record, Allan's team played</p>
<p>Lions 4x at home</p>
<p>Australia 1x home and 2x away</p>
<p>England, Wales, France and Scotland away</p>
<p>France 3x at home</p>
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<p>Yes, I know it is different eras, and you can't compete with perfect, but there is a reason that a lot of records exclude short term results. </p> -
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<p>52-3.. that is fucking outrageous stuff.</p>
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<p>Agreed. I can't believe he allowed the ABs to drop THAT many games! </p> -
<p>16 years as an All Black coach is some unheard of shit. But nothing about this run has been normal. Good luck to him. If he can somehow maintain this level of excellence he'll go down as one of the greatest coaches in any sport ever. </p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="599964" data-time="1469407399">
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<p>52-3.. that is fucking outrageous stuff.</p>
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<p>It is - but, I don't think it trumps Fred Allen's 36 wins, one draw record (14-0 in tests).</p>
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<p>NZZP - different eras, but I think you have to add in Fred's record in non-test matches - which were a lot more lose-able in those days. </p> -
<p>I rmember when Henry was coach, a group of ferners were questioning Hansens involvement in the AB's and that he had no place there.</p>
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<p>i remember that! It's when we sucked wasn't it? And he was blamed because our lineout was an abortion, and a few other aspects of our forward play were pretty ordinary as well. </p>
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<p>I rmember when Henry was coach, a group of ferners were questioning Hansens involvement in the AB's and that he had no place there.</p>
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<p>How times change and people can get better and learn. Poor ole knee-jerk just doesn't get used as often as he wishes.</p>
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<p>He's certainly learned a lot. :)</p>
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<p>Around about the time he learned about contesting the throw on opposition lineouts he got a shitload better!!!!!</p> -
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<p>Obviously disappointing we weren't able to poach the best coach in the world currently Eddie Jones or the one before that Michael Cheika but I guess we will have to make do with Hansen, Smith, Cron, Fox and tolerate Foster.</p>
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<p>Wonder what sort of horrible thing would have happened if he hadn't re-signed?</p>
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<p>It's certainly scuppered Toddy's chances .....for now.
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<p>He's certainly not held in high regard on the international rugby podcasts I listen to. Understandable seeings as I very rarely like other international coaches who aren't shy of having a dig either.</p>
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<p>I think the consensus overseas is that a donkey could coach the All Blacks to a World Cup and he doesn't deserve the plaudits he gets. I strongly disagree. The All Blacks head coach needs to create an environment that the best players in the world crave being a part of, and will spurn significant cash offers while pursuing it. You've also got to manage selections so the next tier and the recently dropped don't fly the coup when they also get large offers to play overseas too.</p>
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<p>Finally, maintaining consistency of performance and a culture of constant improvement when you head into most games as an unbackable favourite is very tough. A lot of teams know they have to play the game of their life to beat the All Blacks, which is the challenge for them. However, equally challenging is the knowledge that you <em>don't</em> have to play the game of your life to beat the opposition, and yet somehow not get complacent.</p> -
<p>I think you only need to look at how often media pundits around the place had written off the likes of McCaw and DC right back to 2010, and yet Hansen & co knew what they were doing...there is more to this coaching lark than the media think...</p>
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i remember that! It's when we sucked wasn't it? And he was blamed because our lineout was an abortion, and a few other aspects of our forward play were pretty ordinary as well.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I think the consensus overseas is that a donkey could coach the All Blacks to a World Cup and he doesn't deserve the plaudits he gets. I strongly disagree. The All Blacks head coach needs to create an environment that the best players in the world crave being a part of, and will spurn significant cash offers while pursuing it. You've also got to manage selections so the next tier and the recently dropped don't fly the coup when they also get large offers to play overseas too.</p>
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<p>100%</p>
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<p>I made this point a lot in the Henry vs Deans debate - who is the better one man coach is a irrelevant in today's international rugby scene. It is about the entire coaching structure - and Henry and now Hansen know what they don't know and make sure they have the smartest guys around filling those slots. Henry went to the interview in 2003 with Smith and Hansen (and Lochore as a selector) up his sleeve on the table - he gets it. In 2007 Deans brought nothing but a vague suggestion of Pat Lam and then didn't even demand selecting his assistants when he got the Aussie gig.</p>
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<p>Same thing with Hansen, the guy is more of a general manager than a coach these days. Unlike most other international coaches who feel a compulsion to be the smartest guy in the room (and tell you about it in the case of Cheika and Jones) Hansen will readily admit he isn't even top 3 in the AB set up.</p>
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<p>Not knowing what you don't know is a rare skill in an ego driven profession like this.</p>
