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    @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Just on the DM/BB axis. Have we seen that in a big test? I'm quite excited to see how it goes.

    Well Mo'unga has already lost us one world cup, no need to make it two

    I'll get the popcorn.

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    @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

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    Former Canterbury player Jon Preston had excellent analysis of Mo'unga shitness at halftime in that match

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    @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

    It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

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    @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    A flat track bully

    Well let’s hope our forwards turn up this week and next to give the useless prick a nice flat track eh?

    Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then Fozzie may as well pick me at 10

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    if we'd kept our head

    A first five that didn't want to touch the ball really didn't help

    It's ok now. He's never done that in a pressure game since then

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

    It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

    The Whitelock penalty still burns

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    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then

    Rinse and repeat for the last 6-7 years.

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    @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    the Ref worries me for this game Carley is prone to slow the game down with penalties and pedantic ones at that.
    He will be a Ref the Italians will be happy with.
    Set piece kick fest maybe the way the game is shaping up.

    In a way that is good, that we get that versus Italy, as we will need to be able to overcome that sort of game versus much better teams.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    We were boys against men

    No. We were dumb, dumb, dumb. From the selection through to the final whistle.

    That loss hurt more than 2007 - and I was there in Cardiff.

    At least then we had the ref to blame rather than our own (lack of) dry powder

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    @Chris guess it depends if in his mind we are meant to win or not...

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    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @foobaNZ said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Victor-Meldrew I won't say we weren't dumb, but if you cannot compete at the contact, you're no chance in a knock out game.

    It's history now, but if we'd kept our head we'd have been able to win that game. Blew opportunities.

    The Whitelock penalty still burns

    The Read Staring Eyes still haunt...

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    @Machpants

    Yeah it is, as no doubt the QF onwards are going to be all grinds.

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    I have only just realised that Carley is the ref, and now I have an extra 2 hours to do something other than watch rugby on Saturday morning.

    Sad that my lifelong love of rugby has diminished to that point.

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    @voodoo said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    A flat track bully

    Well let’s hope our forwards turn up this week and next to give the useless prick a nice flat track eh?

    Cos if we don’t make huge improvements in our accuracy and discipline, particularly at the breakdown, then Fozzie may as well pick me at 10

    This week is easy

    In the QF if the forwards play well it may still a draw between the packs, or we may get edged. Thats when having a mentally weak ten is a concern

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    Laws and refs are too influential. How many games without a card in this cup?

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    @nzzp the 'biggest' game of the cup so far didnt have any cards, so thats a plus.

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    @nzzp said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Laws and refs are too influential. How many games without a card in this cup?

    Yeah not sure, both SA games versus Scotland and Ireland, outside that...

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    @reprobate said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @reprobate said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Tim said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Poor coaching, as is the standard.

    Same coaching set-up when he was getting game-time and being so bloody effective coming off the bench. Weird.

    Foster has always preferred Taylor, even when it was blindingly obvious that he was playing terribly and Samisoni was playing great. IIRC he dropped Samisoni despite being our best forward for the Irish decider, then continued using Taylor while our lineout and his general play was dogshit all last season. Taylor is a decent player, but his form last year was arguably the worst I've seen an AB get away with and keep being selected - and that's not when the cupboard was bare, but when we had another option who was clearly better. It is just shit selection.
    Samisoni should be a bolted on starter by now. Taylor or Coles should be the bench guy, or if we were better at handling young players, Aumua could have been ready in time.
    We all sit around bemoaning Super rugby and our lack of grunt up front - and we have that guy right fucking there and they won't fucking pick him!

    If what you say is true - and it may be - you have to question what value Ryan actually adds, don't you?

    Not really. Foster's preference for Taylor and Taylor's terrible form pre-dates Ryan being involved.
    Has Ryan changed that? No. Has he tried? No idea.
    Buck stops with the head coach.

    Well personally I would be starting with Taylor, I a ST fan , but we need a bloody solid set piece going forward, and hence Taylor probably gets the nod. Would make no difference anyway, we all got our players we like and lo and behold any coach or coaches who don't put our players on field.

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    @Snowy said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    I have only just realised that Carley is the ref, and now I have an extra 2 hours to do something other than watch rugby on Saturday morning.

    Sad that my someone's lifelongspan love of rugby has been diminished to by that point.

    Busy day for the basement.

    But man that is sad, I can't believe you won't watch the abs cos of that. I want to see them play so well it doesn't matter

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