NZ Cricket
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@Godder said in NZ Cricket:
Agree that it's probably time for Stead to move on but that article also raises the good point that it's not as if NZ is stacked with available coaching talent either (much like player stocks).
This feels like the slide after 1990 as the NZ greats from the 1980s started retiring - the newcomers held up for a bit while some of those 1980s greats kept going, but as each great retired, it got a bit harder and a bit worse, and the replacements just weren't of that level (especially early on in their careers).
Then one day everyone was gone and Blair Hartland was opening and we were selecting Adam Parore as a batsman. Hopefully we can avoid slipping that far...
Yep, I remember Matty Hayden couldn’t get a game for Australia and NZ were selecting the two Blairs.
I think the drop off will be more dramatic now as the collection of greats is more than in the late 80s
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@Godder said in NZ Cricket:
Agree that it's probably time for Stead to move on but that article also raises the good point that it's not as if NZ is stacked with available coaching talent either (much like player stocks).
This feels like the slide after 1990 as the NZ greats from the 1980s started retiring - the newcomers held up for a bit while some of those 1980s greats kept going, but as each great retired, it got a bit harder and a bit worse, and the replacements just weren't of that level (especially early on in their careers).
Then one day everyone was gone and Blair Hartland was opening and we were selecting Adam Parore as a batsman. Hopefully we can avoid slipping that far...
It depends on if we have a high performance system in place to foster youth stars of the future..... 🙄
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
@Godder said in NZ Cricket:
Agree that it's probably time for Stead to move on but that article also raises the good point that it's not as if NZ is stacked with available coaching talent either (much like player stocks).
This feels like the slide after 1990 as the NZ greats from the 1980s started retiring - the newcomers held up for a bit while some of those 1980s greats kept going, but as each great retired, it got a bit harder and a bit worse, and the replacements just weren't of that level (especially early on in their careers).
Then one day everyone was gone and Blair Hartland was opening and we were selecting Adam Parore as a batsman. Hopefully we can avoid slipping that far...
Yep, I remember Matty Hayden couldn’t get a game for Australia and NZ were selecting the two Blairs.
I think the drop off will be more dramatic now as the collection of greats is more than in the late 80s
A long harsh Winter is definitely coming
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@Godder said in NZ Cricket:
Then one day everyone was gone and Blair Hartland was opening and we were selecting Adam Parore as a batsman. Hopefully we can avoid slipping that far...
Don't worry, Blundell would never be selected as a batsman...
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There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment (Vettori, McCullum, Fleming, Bond) but I don't think they're realistic hires, but splitting formats might make it more feasible.
I don't think Stead is a total disaster - he clearly has some strengths as a coach and we've had some decent results under him. But he's also not a brilliant coach, and I don't think he's formed a strong partnership with either Kane or Southee, and I think our recent successes have been built from McCullum and Hesson building a strong partnership on contrasting styles. All of the realistic captaincy prospects seem pretty conventional, conservative thinkers so I think we need to balance that with a more forward thinking coach. Who that might be I have no idea.
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@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment
what's @Chris doing?
Well he’s not watching the crusaders in the playoffs 😁
Throw in your hat Chris!
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@bayimports said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment
what's @Chris doing?
Well he’s not watching the crusaders in the playoffs 😁
Throw in your hat Chris!
Fuck I get paid more here in QLD than that job.
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@bayimports said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment
what's @Chris doing?
Well he’s not watching the crusaders in the playoffs 😁
Throw in your hat Chris!
Fuck I get paid more here in QLD than that job.
yeah, but if I had to choose between Stead and you (an internet stranger) I know which I'd choose. Please consider it?
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@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@bayimports said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment
what's @Chris doing?
Well he’s not watching the crusaders in the playoffs 😁
Throw in your hat Chris!
Fuck I get paid more here in QLD than that job.
yeah, but if I had to choose between Stead and you (an internet stranger) I know which I'd choose. Please consider it?
Hahaha
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@bayimports said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment
what's @Chris doing?
Well he’s not watching the crusaders in the playoffs 😁
Throw in your hat Chris!
Fuck I get paid more here in QLD than that job.
Seriously?
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@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@bayimports said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment
what's @Chris doing?
Well he’s not watching the crusaders in the playoffs 😁
Throw in your hat Chris!
Fuck I get paid more here in QLD than that job.
Seriously?
Yep club plus Qld rep stuff and private one on one coaching,plus I coaching for a first x1 private school.
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@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@Crazy-Horse said in NZ Cricket:
@Chris said in NZ Cricket:
@bayimports said in NZ Cricket:
@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
There's a ton of decent kiwi coaches around at the moment
what's @Chris doing?
Well he’s not watching the crusaders in the playoffs 😁
Throw in your hat Chris!
Fuck I get paid more here in QLD than that job.
Seriously?
Yep club plus Qld rep stuff and private one on one coaching,plus I coaching for a first x1 private school.
Jeez, I am a bit surprised by that. But I supposed it's a bit like the Prime Minister not being on the best money when compared to the private sector.
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Kane Williamson turns down NZ Cricket contract, will relinquish Black Caps captaincy
Black Caps legend Kane Williamson and pace bowler Lockie Ferguson have turned down central contracts with New Zealand Cricket.
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@mikedogz said in NZ Cricket:
Kane Williamson turns down NZ Cricket contract, will relinquish Black Caps captaincy
Black Caps legend Kane Williamson and pace bowler Lockie Ferguson have turned down central contracts with New Zealand Cricket.
The decline just keeps declining…..
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It demonstrates how much money can be made in the international T20 competitions. Williamson would be the top earner amongst the 20 contracted players, and that is $524K excluding match payments.
Ferguson will also be declining a central contract, as well as another unnamed player.
