Springboks vs All Blacks 2
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.
They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!
If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.
Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..! -
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.
They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!
If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.
Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.
They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!
If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.
Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground
Assume their tour will take them to Caprice at Camps Bay the day after the test for a long recovery / celebration session?
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@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.
They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!
If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.
Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground
Assume their tour will take them to Caprice at Camps Bay the day after the test for a long recovery / celebration session?
A wee tour into the wine country I'd imagine
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@Brandon said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Just an apology from SA Rugby over the timing issue with flyover etc.
Best wishes
BI mean…very generous…but also - it’s also a bit embarrassing to think that some of us kiwis are genuinely upset about this - its a fucking A380, it’s kinda hard to time and manoeuvre perfectly!
All seems a bit precious to me
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@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.
They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!
If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.
Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground
Assume their tour will take them to Caprice at Camps Bay the day after the test for a long recovery / celebration session?
A wee tour into the wine country I'd imagine
Possibly more appropriate
Stellenbosch and Franschhoek are wicked - so many good wines and such beautiful scenery
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@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.
They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!
If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.
Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground
Assume their tour will take them to Caprice at Camps Bay the day after the test for a long recovery / celebration session?
A wee tour into the wine country I'd imagine
Possibly more appropriate
Stellenbosch and Franschhoek are wicked - so many good wines and such beautiful scenery
Celebration or commiseration over a nice Pinotage sounds like just the ticket
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@Crazy-Horse said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@antipodean said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Re Sotutu, do we know why he has been absent from the Auckland team lately?
Because he's playing for Counties?
Fuck I am getting old!
Edit - just checked and he wasn't in the listed team this week for Counties. He wasn't a couple of weeks ago too when I bothered to take a look. Is he injured?
Hard to know because their social media is terrible.
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@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@voodoo said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@canefan said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
Weather forecast for Saturday still looking good:
Pretty chilly, but no rain or excessive wind expected (yet).
Wow, that's cool!! The olds are on a tour following the team. Being from Wellie they will feel right at home!!
Hope they're having fun!
They chose an excellent week for Cape Town - it's unseasonably warm and dry this week.
Today is 29 degrees and while it gradually cools towards the weekend, it should still be sunshine.They've been on safari, I think they are at Victoria Falls. Off to Capetown later in the week. A trip of a lifetime
That's awesome.
They thought the atmosphere at Ellis Park was amazing, just crazy getting in and out. They walk okay, but would have preferred it if the bus could have got them a little closer!!
If they're planning on being at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday best you warn them that vehicles can't get too close there either. But it is not super far from basically any drop-off point, and pretty flat.
Glad they enjoyed the Ellis Park atmosphere. It can be something special when heaving.
Cape Town likewise will be good for different reasons. Likely they will see a lot of AB jerseys there..!They are on a NZ based bus tour. So I would imagine the walk to the ground is pretty standard, like any major sporting ground
Assume their tour will take them to Caprice at Camps Bay the day after the test for a long recovery / celebration session?
A wee tour into the wine country I'd imagine
Possibly more appropriate
Stellenbosch and Franschhoek are wicked - so many good wines and such beautiful scenery
My uncle used to be the head gardener at Boschendal
Visited him for the day when I was over that way many moons ago
Fabulous tour of the gardens, house and a super lunch with lubrication
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@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Brandon No apologies needed IMHO. Teams can respond to the Haka how they see fit as look as they don't physically assault the players during the challenge, then I expect the ABs to fight back.
Good sentiment Sparky.
Interestingly enough - the Boks (and Bok fans) relish the tradition and honour of facing the Haka.
Which is why Saturday's debacle probably riled us up more than you Kiwis!
The plane - couldn't be helped. But the stadium DJ... abominable. -
@Billy-Webb said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@sparky said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@Brandon No apologies needed IMHO. Teams can respond to the Haka how they see fit as look as they don't physically assault the players during the challenge, then I expect the ABs to fight back.
Good sentiment Sparky.
Interestingly enough - the Boks (and Bok fans) relish the tradition and honour of facing the Haka.
Which is why Saturday's debacle probably riled us up more than you Kiwis!
The plane - couldn't be helped. But the stadium DJ... abominable.Yeah, both the French and the Saffas relish the haka, whereas many of the NH teams let it get into their heads. Even the Aussies went a bit like that for a while, when they tried to combat the haka with Waltzing Matilda 🙄
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Expect Boks to start with Etzebeth/Nortje/Du Toit. Maximum scrum and maul for first 60.
Perhaps Blacks need to try a similar theme. Start Scooter and Vaa'i. At 55ish Darry on and Vaa'i to 6 for 10 - 15. Hard to know who should be bench loosie. Perhaps Paps on for Niggles at 65 and run left/right flanks, or vice versa. Or could Lord be part of 6-2 bench?
Another thought: Would be very useful to have Codie there at end. Perhaps start Aumua for first 30 and bring on Codie for rest?
As for backs, Ratima on earlier, perhaps 50. It doesn't seem that ALB adds impact. Instead, is very much injury cover. Keep Clarke on for whole 80 if possible. Maybe start Telea and bench Jordan, who can come on in second. Replace DMac/Jordie/Rieko/Telea/Clarke or Beaudy depending how match develops!
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Some good points, decision making is shit. Pinned the finger at Jordie but lost minute Beaudy and DMac un willing to control the game with the boot, are just as had
Analysis: All Blacks' decision making must take share of blame for loss
The talk about a lack of impact from the bench at Ellis Park probably misses the point given the All Blacks' wastefulness, writes Patrick McKendry.
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@MiketheSnow said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
What Rassie does better than anyone else I believe is select a starting XV which will be in contention at the 50-60 minute mark
I think it's less Rassie than happy circumstance that SA has produced a significant depth when he's been in charge.
He's exploited and managed it well, but I feel he's getting credit for more than he should.
Circumstance have allowed him to implement some of his off the wall ideas.
The depth he has to play with is reminiscent of periods of AB history where the question was not who to select, but who to leave out.
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Yes, we definitely wanted to lose the guys capable of running our set piece, defending mauls etc.
Re-injuring Bell was one Joe's KPIs.
Anyone questioning this on social media is met with the smug outrage of a thousand Bok fans.
Why raise this here?
Because I am officially passing the mantle of "Guardians Of The Game" from you lot to Boks fans.
