All Blacks EOYT
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@Machpants said in All Blacks EOYT:
Ignore the first third or so about the French not turning up, some good loose forward analysis
Will the withdrawal of the ‘top 20’ devalue France’s tour of New Zealand?
In resting Antoine Dupont and the rest of his 'premiums', has Fabien Galthie undermined a mouth-watering voyage?
I'm not sure we're in a position to be getting our knickers in a twist just yet. There's the distinct possibility their second team could give us a real contest.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:
lol shit, i thought some people had a go in here. No one hates the ABs more than Hamish Bidwell. Even by his own phenomenally low standards, his last article on the Roar is pretty terrible.
I felt it would be a hell of an effort to make me dumber, but Bidwell managed it.
For those that haven't had the pleasure:
https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/10/08/all-blacks-tour-squad-is-a-reason-for-despair-only-heavy-losses-are-likely-to-shame-razor-into-delivering-change/ -
The peice somewhat echoes what has been written on here doesn't it? Apart from the wanting ABs to lose bit. Or am I missing the point again?
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Yeah, can't say Im upset with Bidwell here, feels like it has been lifted from the fern. It s an opinion piece and if he has actually asked Razor and his management army the hard questions even better. I suspect none of that has happened though.
The risk is , if you never offer anything constructive in all your previous pieces then it could come off as a hater, but just in this context given so many of us want to know, why take Proctor to carry drinks only? other than perhaps he makes a mean old fashioned?, does Finau actually get another shot?, does Ardie get a shot at 7? all questions I have seen posted that we dont have answers for. then I think he reads the fern and although we are a bunch of dumb polish chicks, even we can be right every now and again. -
yeah, dont think i would ever go so far as HOPE we loose...but i agreed with some of the ideas leading him to that conclusion, feel like ive missed something
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I don't think anyone here wants the ABs to lose like Bidwell does
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@brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:
I don't think anyone here wants the ABs to lose like Bidwell does
no...but thats just the sensational "gotcha"....its all the arguments he puts forward leading up to thats not far off what we see around here
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Maybe you have to read every article since the start of the international season to get an idea about what his agenda really is (hint, he fucking Haaaaates DMac)
But to start with "i hope we lose by shitloads so the coaches can pick who i want" is a fluffybunny move from a supposed journo. Then he basically goes on a long rant about the two old heads (a rant he's had before).
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i have to say im always surprised when some of you differentiate between one journo and another....i almost never actually look whos written it and if i do i doubt i would bother to remember, i read stuff...and agree or disagree, maybe critique how theyve written it...then promptly forget most of it...honestly dont think i could tell you the vibe or angle any particular journo has
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:
Maybe you have to read every article since the start of the international season to get an idea about what his agenda really is (hint, he fucking Haaaaates DMac)
But to start with "i hope we lose by shitloads so the coaches can pick who i want" is a fluffybunny move from a supposed journo. Then he basically goes on a long rant about the two old heads (a rant he's had before).
fair enough, cant say I have read much of his shit
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks EOYT:
The peice somewhat echoes what has been written on here doesn't it? Apart from the wanting ABs to lose bit. Or am I missing the point again?
Pretty much this, and the Blackadder to 6 and Ardie to 7 part which is less than half of people on here.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks EOYT:
TSF posts containing ‘Bidwell’ sorted by upvotes: link
Got it, glad I dont read much of his stuff, @KiwiMurph you made me laugh out loud, calling out haters since 2017
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@Duluth said in All Blacks EOYT:
TSF posts containing ‘Bidwell’ sorted by upvotes: link
Fuck, I thought I was gonna appear a lot more on that link haha. @KiwiMurph obviously did the heavy lifting for us in that regard.
I remember us Blues fans used to always lose our shit over his articles when we were struggling haha.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks EOYT:
TSF posts containing ‘Bidwell’ sorted by upvotes: link
that is fucking GOLD
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@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:
@brodean said in All Blacks EOYT:
Social media etiquette should not be a criteria for AB selection.
I don't think anyone said it should be. But think about it like this:
If you were a coach, and a player refused to answer a phone call explaining his non-selection, and went on to make a cryptic social media post moaning about it, would you be more or less likely to be inclined to select him in the future?
I wouldn't let that worry me, to be honest
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@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks EOYT:
@African-Monkey so you either go with the young guy who shows some talent or two blokes who spend more time on Instagram than they do training? At least Robertson had the balls with the selections for this one part. Both Sotutu and Akira are brats
That's idle character assassination without any evidence.
You are talking about a current MVP and a player who played over 100 games under various Blues coach and lauded for his recent fitness
IOANE MILESTONE LOOMS AS PLAYOFF RACE HEATS UP — Blues Rugby
Loose-forward Akira Ioane lines up to play his 100th Blues match this Saturday against the Crusaders in Christchurch as the Super Rugby Pacific playoff race starts to intensify. The Blues are out for retribution after going down 34-28 in the corresponding fixture in Round Four at Eden Park. The vi
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Not sure it’s idle at all.
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Does anyone think there is on onus on some of the older players to step aside when they know their goose is cooked?
The jersey is bigger than the individual and all that.
For example should Cane and TJP have stood themselves down?
The likes of McCaw timed their exits to coincide with the end of a World Cup cycle and knew when to exit stage left.
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@Jet said in All Blacks EOYT:
Does anyone think there is on onus on some of the older players to step aside when they know their goose is cooked?
The jersey is bigger than the individual and all that.
For example should Cane and TJP have stood themselves down?
The likes of McCaw timed their exits to coincide with the end of a World Cup cycle and knew when to exit stage left.
In the past players were dropped when not good enough. I can understand them wanting to play in the black jersey as long as they can, it's up the Razor to decide when their time is up
