MotM vs Australia III
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3 votes as usual.
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Todd, Crockett and Julian (Todd for his work all throughout the first half) Crockett for his work in the tight that actually turned over ball for us that led to a try and Julian because apart form his tries, he actually went looking for work and did some cover defence on his opposite wing - yeah he got done by one awesome step but he didn't stop looking for work and hitting up the ball in the tight.
Honourable mention to another mr Dependable - nothing flash just hard graft - Ryan Crotty. I like his partnership with ALB and crottty looks to be the kickoff returner now
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Easy: Todd & Perenara
Went for J. Savea for the 3rd spot because of his awesome tries. -
Who the fuck are "Leinert" and "Kerr"?
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Todd (actually thought his 1st half was just OK, 2nd half he was great)
Whitelock - great work rate
The good Savea - broke the game open in the second halfAlso though Crotty had a bloody good game. Was called on to make a heap of tackles and was up to the job.
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@Unco said in MotM vs Australia III:
Who the fuck are "Leinert" and "Kerr"?
That was definitely the software cutting it off. Misspelling Lienert was my fault.
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@hydro11 said in MotM vs Australia III:
@Unco said in MotM vs Australia III:
Who the fuck are "Leinert" and "Kerr"?
That was definitely the software cutting it off. Misspelling Lienert was my fault.
Really? Weird, I guess I haven't made any polls with the new forums so it just looked weird. Should probably just use ALB and TKB instead.
Anyway, I ended up going with Todd (he's no Cane but still the stand out of the forwards), ALB (did a bit of a reverse Savea, starting really strong but fading out later on) and BFA. The bench was fuckin great though.
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I voted because I saw the game this time. It was a good game. Coles, Todd, Bus the standouts.
I was reading the list and thought "fuck was that guy even playing?"
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Todd. Crotty, Crockett.
At least I think that's what I clicked. -
I thought it came down to choosing three of four guys. Coles Todd, TJP and J Savea. Thought Todd was good then wondered if he was part of the problem of offensive defense compared to Cane so went for the others.
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Went for Todd, Savea and Smith
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Todd, Perenara, Savea
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Todd, Smith and J Savea (for 2nd half only)
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If Matt Todd were Marty holah or Duane monkey half you fluffybunnies would be creaming your pants. That's all I have to say about that right now.
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Coles, Read, Kaino. Thought they played consistently well for the entire match. The latter 2 made some huge hits in defence.
Savea did some good stuff of course but plenty of shit as well. Todd had a good game but he did miss that tackle that led to the Aus try.
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@Unco
ALB missed too many tackles to be named IMO.
I went for Coles, Todd and J. Savea. -
For the record, I even voted for two Cantabs.
Coles, Crotty and Todd for mine.
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Todd, Kaino, Coles
If Savea is in the running for MOTM then Kaino gets a point easy. Savea was on target to be this year's Lauaki/Rodney in Rustenburg before that final 20 minutes.
I voted for one Cantab, I think I may have hit my head cheering when Savea ran in his try.
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Coles, Kaino, Crotty. All got in and did the shit work, tidy up and quite a few flash plays too.
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Ben Smith , Todd and Coles. Ben Smith has to be in the All Black great category now, he is a treasure. Todd I think booked his touring ticket, can't leave him behind now. Savea was dreadful in the first half but two sensational tries and an assist in the second I made up for it but not enough to earn a vote imho.
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Todd, Kaino, Crotty
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Todd, Kaino and Coles.
Todd was excellent, got about and defence was huge in the second spell and was a nuisance at the breakdown.
Kaino was Kaino, as was Coles, man he is fast.
What to do with Julian, large parts he was rubbish, but had a couple of moments that I don't think anyone else could have done either, freakish.
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Savea needs to feature in this.
We need 2 tries to seal the game and he scores them then puts on the third - a match winning performance in my book -
Todd, Perenara - easy
Smith, because no Smith no tries for Savea.
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@cgrant said in MotM vs Australia III:
@Unco
ALB missed too many tackles to be named IMO.
I went for Coles, Todd and J. Savea.A fair point, probably should've given that vote to Crotty, but then Savea made a shit-ton of mistakes too and yet he's getting heaps of votes.
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@DMX said in MotM vs Australia III:
Ben Smith , Todd and Coles. Ben Smith has to be in the All Black great category now, he is a treasure.
Be interesting who gets the World Player of the Year award. Not sure whether a raft of AB contenders could take one-another out, but It would be between Ben Smith, Dane Coles and Beauden Barrett for me - and right now, I've probably got Ben edging it.
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@Unco said in MotM vs Australia III:
@cgrant said in MotM vs Australia III:
@Unco
ALB missed too many tackles to be named IMO.
I went for Coles, Todd and J. Savea.A fair point, probably should've given that vote to Crotty, but then Savea made a shit-ton of mistakes too and yet he's getting heaps of votes.
Crotty had his fair share of errors.. Missed tackles plus the knock on that led to Savea's try.. Our defence was poor.. Basically everyone missed a tackle.. Even Read made a bad read on Foles..
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@Chris-B. said in MotM vs Australia III:
@DMX said in MotM vs Australia III:
Ben Smith , Todd and Coles. Ben Smith has to be in the All Black great category now, he is a treasure.
Be interesting who gets the World Player of the Year award. Not sure whether a raft of AB contenders could take one-another out, but It would be between Ben Smith, Dane Coles and Beauden Barrett for me - and right now, I've probably got Ben edging it.
I would've had Barrett, although one thing Coles might have over the others is captaining his super side to victory...
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@Bones said in MotM vs Australia III:
@Chris-B. said in MotM vs Australia III:
@DMX said in MotM vs Australia III:
Ben Smith , Todd and Coles. Ben Smith has to be in the All Black great category now, he is a treasure.
Be interesting who gets the World Player of the Year award. Not sure whether a raft of AB contenders could take one-another out, but It would be between Ben Smith, Dane Coles and Beauden Barrett for me - and right now, I've probably got Ben edging it.
I would've had Barrett, although one thing Coles might have over the others is captaining his super side to victory...
General play, I'd probably agree. I guess I'm holding Beaudy's goal kicking a bit against him. Someone's doubtless got stats for it - but, I doubt he's at 70% for the ABs or the whole year.
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We probably didn't have a standout performer for 80 this match or even 70.
Probably Ben Smith comes close, but he made a mistake or two. But overall he was our best and most consistent performer.
Todd, Crotty, Savea did a lot of good things but like everyone there were errors.
Some interesting stats, we missed 24 tackles which is high. But OZ had a mountain of possession and they missed 20 tackles of their own.
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After a relaxed re-watch, I change my votes and go for Coles, TJP and Smith as they were consistent. Todd missed that tackle on Arnold and Savea was not good enough in the first half.
Worst performances were Barrett's because of his goalkicking, and Cruden's because of his kicking from hand. -
Kaino, Coles, Smith
Kaino tackle cause the almost Coles penalty try, plus another tackle on DHP again jolts ball free after a huge Simmons break and NZ on rack.
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Some interesting individual stats from the test match, in particular the tackle count and missed tackles.
Whitelock - 19/0
Read - 16/2
Todd - 16/1
Coles - 15/2
Retallick - 13/1
Crotty - 12/1
Moody - 10/4
Perenara - 9/1
Kaino - 8/2
Crockett - 8/1
Franks - 8/1http://www.espn.com.au/rugby/playerstats?gameId=268581&league=268561
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Ben Smith, Perenara, Matt Todd. Coles a very close 4th.
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@ACT-Crusader said in MotM vs Australia III:
Some interesting individual stats from the test match, in particular the tackle count and missed tackles.
Whitelock - 19/0
Read - 16/2
Todd - 16/1
Coles - 15/2
Retallick - 13/1
Crotty - 12/1
Moody - 10/4
Perenara - 9/1
Kaino - 8/2
Crockett - 8/1
Franks - 8/1http://www.espn.com.au/rugby/playerstats?gameId=268581&league=268561
A pity for Todd that his one missed tackle stands out more than all the other missed tackles in the game - also in that lead up he'd actually made a crucial tackle which helped stop a try being scored earlier.
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@ACT-Crusader said in MotM vs Australia III:
Some interesting individual stats from the test match, in particular the tackle count and missed tackles.
Whitelock - 19/0
Read - 16/2
Todd - 16/1
Coles - 15/2
Retallick - 13/1
Crotty - 12/1
Moody - 10/4
Perenara - 9/1
Kaino - 8/2
Crockett - 8/1
Franks - 8/1http://www.espn.com.au/rugby/playerstats?gameId=268581&league=268561
Hmmmm, so my placing Kaino first based on some rock star tackles looking shaky.
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4 misses by Moody is a worry!
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@taniwharugby said in MotM vs Australia III:
4 misses by Moody is a worry!
I think that's his "thing" to go along with Franks' "must begin with an offside penalty".
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@Bones said in MotM vs Australia III:
@taniwharugby said in MotM vs Australia III:
4 misses by Moody is a worry!
I think that's his "thing" to go along with Franks' "must begin with an offside penalty".
Our entire team was offside the first few phases, until the ref puts down the marker.
I spent the first minute if the match (internally) shouting at us to get onside.