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    • Stargazer
      Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

      International fixtures May-July 2017

      See for the women's games, the schedule below the men's (9-17 June)
      See for the NZU20s games under the women's schedule (from 31 May)
      For a few listings in other countries, see at the bottom of this post.

      Men

      day date NZT match where watch in NZ
      Mon 29 May 2:00am England v Barbarians London 28 - 14
      Fri 2 June 6.30am Ulster v Barbarians Belfast 28 - 43
      Sat 3 June 7:35pm NZ PROV BAABAAS v B&I Lions Whangarei 7 - 13
      Wed 7 June 7:35pm BLUES v B&I Lions Auckland 22 - 16
      Sat 10 June 5:00pm Australia v Fiji Melbourne 37 - 14
      Sat 10 June 5:40pm Japan v Romania Kumamoto 33 - 21
      Sat 10 June 7:35pm CRUSADERS v B&I Lions Christchurch 3 - 12
      Sun 11 June 0:00am Italy v Scotland Singapore 13 - 34
      Sun 11 June 3:00am South Africa v France Pretoria 37 - 14
      Sun 11 June 7.15am Argentina v England San Juan 34 - 38
      Sun 11 June 9:00am USA v Ireland Harrison, NJ 19 - 55
      Sun 11 June 9:00am Canada v Georgia Calgary 0 - 13
      Tue 13 June 7:35pm HIGHLANDERS v B&I Lions Dunedin 23 - 22
      Fri 16 June 5:30pm Tonga v Wales Auckland 6 - 24
      Fri 16 June 8:00pm NEW ZEALAND v Samoa Auckland 78 - 0
      Sat 17 June 2:30pm Fiji v Italy Suva 22 - 19
      Sat 17 June 5:00pm Japan v Ireland Shizuoka 22 - 50
      Sat 17 June 5:00pm Australia v Scotland Sydney 19 - 24
      Sat 17 June 7:35pm Māori ALL BLACKS v B&I Lions Rotorua 10 - 32
      Sun 18 June 3:00am South Africa v France Durban 37 - 15
      Sun 18 June 7:15am Argentina v England Santa Fe 25 -35
      Sun 18 June 9:00am Canada v Romania Edmonton 9 - 25
      Sun 18 June 11:00am USA v Georgia Atlanta 17 - 21
      Tue 20 June 7:35pm CHIEFS v B&I Lions Hamilton 6 - 34
      Fri 23 June 6:30pm Samoa v Wales Apia 17 - 19
      Sat 24 June 3:00pm Fiji v Scotland Suva 27 - 22
      Sat 24 June 5:00pm Australia v Italy Brisbane 40 - 27
      Sat 24 June 5:40pm Japan v Ireland Tokyo 13 - 35
      Sat 24 June 7:35pm ALL BLACKS v B&I Lions Auckland 30 - 15
      Sun 25 June 3:00am South Africa v France Johannesburg 35 - 12
      Sun 25 June 7:00am Canada v USA (RWC Q) Hamilton (ON) 28 -28
      Sun 25 June 7:15am Argentina v Georgia Jujuy 45 - 29
      Tue 27 June 7:35pm HURRICANES v B&I Lions Wellington 31 -31
      Sat 1 July 2:00pm Tonga v Samoa (RWC Q) Nuku'alofa 30 - 26
      Sat 1 July 7:35pm ALL BLACKS v B&I Lions Wellington 21 - 24
      Sun 2 July 10:00am USA v Canada (RWC Q) San Diego 52 - 16
      Sat 8 July 2:00pm Tonga v Fiji (RWC Q) Nuku'alofa 10 - 14
      Sat 8 July 7:35pm ALL BLACKS v B&I Lions Auckland 15 - 15
      Sat 15 July 1:00pm Samoa v Fiji (RWC Q) Apia Sky Sport 4

      Women

      day date NZT match where results
      Fri 9 June 5:00pm NEW ZEALAND v Canada Wellington 28 - 16
      Fri 9 June 12:30pm Australia v England Porirua 10 - 53
      Tue 13 June 12:30pm Canada v England Christchurch 20 - 27
      Tue 13 June 2:45pm NEW ZEALAND v Australia Christchurch 44 - 17
      Sat 17 June 12:30pm Australia v Canada Rotorua 5 - 45
      Sat 17 June 4:15pm NEW ZEALAND v England Rotorua 21 - 29

      NZ U20

      day date NZT match where results
      Wed 31 May 9:00pm NZU20 v Scotland U20 Georgia 42 - 20
      Sun 4 June 11:30pm NZU20 v Italy U20 Georgia 68 - 26
      Thu 8 June 11:30pm NZU20 v Ireland U20 Georgia 69 - 3
      Wed 14 June 4:30am SF: NZU20 v France U20 Georgia 39 - 26
      Sun 18 June 8:00pm 11th: Samoa U20 v Argentina U20 Georgia 42- 53
      Sun 18 June 9:00pm 9th: Ireland U20 v Georgia U20 Georgia 24 - 18
      Sun 18 June 10:30pm 5th: Scotland U20 v Australia U20 Georgia 24 - 17
      Sun 18 June 11:30pm Bronze: South Africa U20 v France U20 Georgia 37 - 15
      Mon 19 June 1:00am 7th: Wales U20 v Italy U20 Georgia 25 - 24
      Mon 19 June 2:00am F: NZU20 v England U20 Georgia 17 - 64

      Australia (AEST)
      All Blacks v B&I Lions (Sat, k/o: 5:35pm): Fox Sports channel 501

      France
      All Blacks v B&I Lions III (Sat, k/o: 9:35am): Canal+Sport (replays Sat, 9:10pm; Sun, 6:45pm)

      Ireland
      All Blacks v B&I Lions III (Sat, k/o: 8:35am): Sky Sports 1

      UK
      All Blacks v B&I Lions III (Sat, k/o: 8:35am): Sky Sports 1

      South Africa
      All Blacks v B&I Lions III (Sat, k/o: 9:35am): Super Sport 1 & CSN

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      • Stargazer
        Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

        Eddie Jones has named the England squad for their Argentina tour in June:

        Forwards
        Will Collier (Harlequins, uncapped), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 3 caps), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap), Dylan Hartley – captain (Northampton Saints, 84 caps), James Haskell (Wasps, 75 caps), Paul Hill (Northampton Saints, 5 caps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 8 caps), Nick Isiekwe (Saracens, uncapped), Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 42 caps), Matt Mullan (Wasps, 15 caps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, 55 caps), Sam Underhill (Ospreys/Bath Rugby, uncapped), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 50 caps).

        Backs
        Mike Brown – vice-captain (Harlequins, 60 caps), Danny Care – vice captain (Harlequins, 71 caps), Joe Cokanasiga (London Irish, uncapped), Nathan Earle (Saracens, uncapped), George Ford – vice captain (Bath Rugby, 35 caps), Piers Francis (Auckland Blues/Northampton Saints, uncapped), Sam James (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Alex Lozowski (Saracens, uncapped), Harry Mallinder (Northampton Saints, uncapped), Joe Marchant (Harlequins, uncapped), Jack Maunder (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 25 caps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Denny Solomona (Sale Sharks, uncapped).

        Unavailable for selection due to injury: Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Sam Jones (Wasps)

        RFU
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        • Crucial
          Crucial @Stargazer last edited by

          @Stargazer said in June Internationals:

          Eddie Jones has named the England squad for their Argentina tour in June:

          Forwards
          Will Collier (Harlequins, uncapped), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 3 caps), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap), Dylan Hartley – captain (Northampton Saints, 84 caps), James Haskell (Wasps, 75 caps), Paul Hill (Northampton Saints, 5 caps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 8 caps), Nick Isiekwe (Saracens, uncapped), Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 42 caps), Matt Mullan (Wasps, 15 caps), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, 55 caps), Sam Underhill (Ospreys/Bath Rugby, uncapped), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, 50 caps).

          Backs
          Mike Brown – vice-captain (Harlequins, 60 caps), Danny Care – vice captain (Harlequins, 71 caps), Joe Cokanasiga (London Irish, uncapped), Nathan Earle (Saracens, uncapped), George Ford – vice captain (Bath Rugby, 35 caps), Piers Francis (Auckland Blues/Northampton Saints, uncapped), Sam James (Sale Sharks, uncapped), Alex Lozowski (Saracens, uncapped), Harry Mallinder (Northampton Saints, uncapped), Joe Marchant (Harlequins, uncapped), Jack Maunder (Exeter Chiefs, uncapped), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 25 caps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), Denny Solomona (Sale Sharks, uncapped).

          Unavailable for selection due to injury: Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Sam Jones (Wasps)

          RFU

          WTF!

          Now we know why Piers Francis was so keen to leave the Blues. Eddie had a word in his ear.

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          • Tim
            Tim last edited by

            Bloody hell!

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            • MiketheSnow
              MiketheSnow last edited by

              What does Christian Wade have to do?

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              • Paekakboyz
                Paekakboyz last edited by

                Wow, that is out of left field! Hadn't heard any goss about Francis being in the mix for England.

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                • Billy Tell
                  Billy Tell @Paekakboyz last edited by

                  @Paekakboyz said in June Internationals:

                  Wow, that is out of left field! Hadn't heard any goss about Francis being in the mix for England.

                  Not really. Once capped, always capped. Not that I think he was remotely in the "NZ Project Player" category, but they might as well shut the gate for good.

                  What are the odds on a solitary cap?

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                  • gollum
                    gollum last edited by

                    Denny Solomona is an interesting one too. Definately coming, but its got to be one people don't feel great about. Especially Wade.

                    Huge amount of interest in how Sam Underhill goes. He's been the messaih for a long time for such a young guy

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                    • Crucial
                      Crucial @Billy Tell last edited by

                      @Billy-Tell said in June Internationals:

                      @Paekakboyz said in June Internationals:

                      Wow, that is out of left field! Hadn't heard any goss about Francis being in the mix for England.

                      Not really. Once capped, always capped. Not that I think he was remotely in the "NZ Project Player" category, but they might as well shut the gate for good.

                      What are the odds on a solitary cap?

                      Doubt they need to nail him in place for the sake of it. Eddie will have watched his play, known he is unlikely to be in the AB sights and made an approach. Francis is a pom and is going to play in the Premiership anyway. There is no need to secure him further.
                      I would be fairly sure that the overture from the England camp helped in his decision to return home though.
                      Good on him. He has taken a big risk moving to NZ to prove his credentials and it took him a while to fight his way up as well. Bit of good fortune moving to CM when Tana was going to the Blues but he no doubt worked hard to show his worth. Now he gets to go home and be an international player.

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                      • M
                        Margin_Walker last edited by

                        Nah, Underhill is so last year.

                        It's all about the 18 year old Curry twins in the back row now. And Mercer who missed out here but was the star of the U20 6N.

                        Obviously a big eye on development with this squad with youngsters in for perhaps more deserving players in their mid 20's (Wade, Robson, Taylor etc). Eddie's certainly made the JWC more challenging by selecting 5 current U20s:

                        Ben Curry (back row)
                        Tom Curry (back row)
                        Nick Isiekwe (lock)
                        Jack Maunder (9)
                        Joe Cokanasiga (wing)

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                        • Crucial
                          Crucial last edited by

                          Harry Mallinder looks to be the England version of Jordie B. Big tall multi-skilled back possibly destined for the 12 jersey.

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                          • Bovidae
                            Bovidae last edited by

                            So with Francis being released for England during the Super rugby break he won't be playing for the Blues against the Lions. The Blues game is on June 7 and the 1st test in Argentina is on June 10. West and Gatland in the squad.

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                            • Stargazer
                              Stargazer @Bovidae last edited by

                              @Bovidae said in June Internationals:

                              So with Francis being released for England during the Super rugby break he won't be playing for the Blues against the Lions. The Blues game is on June 7 and the 1st test in Argentina is on June 10. West and Gatland in the squad.

                              The NZ Provincial Barbarians game is on June 4 and Gatland has been named in that squad. So I'd guess West starting, and maybe Gatland on the bench if he has recovered well from the game on the 4th. Assuming Perofeta, if healthy, will be with NZU20s. Who's next in line?

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                              • Crucial
                                Crucial @Bovidae last edited by

                                @Bovidae said in June Internationals:

                                So with Francis being released for England during the Super rugby break he won't be playing for the Blues against the Lions. The Blues game is on June 7 and the 1st test in Argentina is on June 10. West and Gatland in the squad.

                                Good spotting.

                                Geez West is frustrating isn't he. He looks to have the necessaries to play Super Rugby well but just doesn't produce when he gets on the field. With a bit of confidence he could play like BB light but just seems to freeze up.
                                Maybe T will prime him up for this game and see if he can gain confidence from it?

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                                • Bovidae
                                  Bovidae @Stargazer last edited by

                                  @Stargazer That's what I was meaning, West starting and Gatland backing up in the reserves.

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                                  • Tim
                                    Tim @Stargazer last edited by

                                    @Stargazer Wiseguy Fiane and D'angelo Leuila are in the U20 and dev squads for the Blues. The latter has five caps for Samoa and is only 20.

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                                    • antipodean
                                      antipodean @Paekakboyz last edited by

                                      @Paekakboyz said in June Internationals:

                                      Wow, that is out of left field! Hadn't heard any goss about Francis being in the mix for England.

                                      Certainly not based on his Blues form.

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                                      • D
                                        Disgusted of TW last edited by

                                        Depending who he puts in the matchday 23 Eddie seems keen to blood some youngsters. Suggests that he's looking beyond 2019, not for himself necessarily, but least with a view to ensuring a good deep selection pool of capped prospects for his successor.

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                                        • Crucial
                                          Crucial @Disgusted of TW last edited by

                                          @Disgusted-of-TW said in June Internationals:

                                          Depending who he puts in the matchday 23 Eddie seems keen to blood some youngsters. Suggests that he's looking beyond 2019, not for himself necessarily, but least with a view to ensuring a good deep selection pool of capped prospects for his successor.

                                          I think it's more to do with his RWC plan. He has said he can't expect to win without depth unless very lucky and is trying to create that depth.

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                                          • Rapido
                                            Rapido last edited by

                                            Wow. Congrats Piers Francis. I think it's kinda awesome.

                                            Ollie Jäger will be interested in that.

                                            I'm ok with foreign players in SR, although having only 5 teams means someone needs to be really, really vigilant that there is no foreign build up in certain positions (ChrisB I recall pointed out this situation at tight head prop at the moment).

                                            If nothing else, surely some foreigners helps with the overseas broadcast deals.

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                                            • Stargazer
                                              Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                                              Hi all, I have inserted the June match schedule in the first post and will keep it updated as much as possible. I'll include broadcast times & channels if games are televised or streamed if I can find that info.

                                              If the moderators consider that appropriate, can this thread be pinned at the top, so everyone can easily find it?

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                                              • Rapido
                                                Rapido last edited by

                                                Wales game v Tonga has been moved from Nukualofa to Auckland, as the stadium isn't up to standard.

                                                This happened back in March, so may have already been discussed while I was watching the cricket.

                                                Feb 17, 2017  /  Sport

                                                Tonga won't host rugby test against Wales

                                                Tonga won't host rugby test against Wales

                                                Wales' rugby test against Tonga in June will be staged in another country because of concerns over the suitability of the stadium in Nuku'alofa.

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                                                • Rapido
                                                  Rapido last edited by

                                                  Apparently Tonga haven't hosted a test at all since 2009 according to this article. I'm very surprised at that.

                                                  Jan 12, 2017  /  Pacific

                                                  Tonga expected to announce stadium deal next week

                                                  Tonga expected to announce stadium deal next week

                                                  Tonga's Deputy Prime Minister says he expects to announce a deal with a construction company to renovate the Teufaiva national stadium next week.

                                                  Was reading that NZ and Aus had given about $2m each for the stadium ref development, as Tonga are about to host the Pacific Games. PNG pledged $shitloads but haven't come through (yet).

                                                  Oct 16, 2016  /  Pacific

                                                  Sport: Tongan officials still waiting on PNG help for Teufaiva Stadium

                                                  Sport: Tongan officials still waiting on PNG help for Teufaiva Stadium

                                                  Organisers of the 2019 Pacific Games in Tonga says Papua New Guinea has yet to follow through on a promise to help refurbish Teufaiva National Stadium.

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                                                  • Bovidae
                                                    Bovidae @Rapido last edited by

                                                    @Rapido said in June Internationals:

                                                    Wales game v Tonga has been moved from Nukualofa to Auckland, as the stadium isn't up to standard.

                                                    There was a suggestion that the Tonga-Wales test might be the curtainraiser to the NZ-Samoa test in a double-header at Albany.

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                                                    • Stargazer
                                                      Stargazer @Rapido last edited by Stargazer

                                                      @Rapido Thanks, yes, I have changed that to TBC because an alternative venue still hasn't been confirmed. Even the date is not 100% certain.

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                                                        • Stargazer
                                                          Stargazer last edited by

                                                          I assume this means that - although hasn't been included in the touring squad for Argentina - he may be considered for the game against the Barbarians?

                                                          http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/92319546/New-Zealands-Jason-Woodward-picked-for-England-training-squad

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                                                          • antipodean
                                                            antipodean @Stargazer last edited by

                                                            @Stargazer Fair enough. They just don't have the player numbers to have any depth.

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                                                            • MiketheSnow
                                                              MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                              Welsh squad for Samoa and Tonga matches named

                                                              Same old, same old.

                                                              A number of players who should be there aren't, too many who are there who should have been put out to pasture ages ago.

                                                              Wales 2017 summer tour squad

                                                              Forwards: Scott Baldwin (Ospreys), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues), Ryan Elias (Scarlets), Rob Evans (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Ollie Griffiths (Newport Gwent Dragons), Cory Hill (Newport Gwent Dragons), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), Wyn Jones (Scarlets), James King (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Rory Thornton (Ospreys), Thomas Young (Wasps).

                                                              Backs: Cory Allen (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), Aled Davies (Scarlets), Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Sam Davies (Ospreys), Steff Evans (Scarlets), Keelan Giles (Ospreys), Tyler Morgan (Newport Gwent Dragons), Jamie Roberts (captain, Harlequins), Owen Williams (Leicester Tigers), Rhun Williams (Cardiff Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues).

                                                              Roberts to lead Wales on June tour

                                                              Roberts to lead Wales on June tour

                                                              Wales name Harlequins centre Jamie Roberts as captain for their summer tour Tests against Tonga in Auckland and Samoa in Apia.

                                                              Jamie Roberts captain

                                                              Depending on the weather and who Samoa and Tonga pick, we could easily lose both of these

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                                                              • Crucial
                                                                Crucial @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                @MiketheSnow said in June Internationals:

                                                                Welsh squad for Samoa and Tonga matches named

                                                                Same old, same old.

                                                                A number of players who should be there aren't, too many who are there who should have been put out to pasture ages ago.

                                                                Wales 2017 summer tour squad

                                                                Forwards: Scott Baldwin (Ospreys), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Adam Beard (Ospreys), Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues), Seb Davies (Cardiff Blues), Ryan Elias (Scarlets), Rob Evans (Scarlets), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Ollie Griffiths (Newport Gwent Dragons), Cory Hill (Newport Gwent Dragons), Ellis Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), Wyn Jones (Scarlets), James King (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Josh Navidi (Cardiff Blues), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Rory Thornton (Ospreys), Thomas Young (Wasps).

                                                                Backs: Cory Allen (Cardiff Blues), Gareth Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), Aled Davies (Scarlets), Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Sam Davies (Ospreys), Steff Evans (Scarlets), Keelan Giles (Ospreys), Tyler Morgan (Newport Gwent Dragons), Jamie Roberts (captain, Harlequins), Owen Williams (Leicester Tigers), Rhun Williams (Cardiff Blues), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues).

                                                                Roberts to lead Wales on June tour

                                                                Roberts to lead Wales on June tour

                                                                Wales name Harlequins centre Jamie Roberts as captain for their summer tour Tests against Tonga in Auckland and Samoa in Apia.

                                                                Jamie Roberts captain

                                                                Depending on the weather and who Samoa and Tonga pick, we could easily lose both of these

                                                                You'll be OK, most of their good players will be with the BIL 😉

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                                                                • Catogrande
                                                                  Catogrande @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                  @MiketheSnow Same old, same old.

                                                                  A number of players who should be there aren't, too many who are there who should have been put out to pasture ages ago.

                                                                  To be fair Mike with half your senior players away with the Lions together with most of the coaching staff, you'd expect a few old heads/has beens to be in the mix.

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                                                                  • Crucial
                                                                    Crucial @Catogrande last edited by

                                                                    @Catogrande said in June Internationals:

                                                                    @MiketheSnow Same old, same old.

                                                                    A number of players who should be there aren't, too many who are there who should have been put out to pasture ages ago.

                                                                    To be fair Mike with half your senior players away with the Lions together with most of the coaching staff, you'd expect a few old heads/has beens to be in the mix.

                                                                    I don't know all the players but I'd think it would be a great opportunity for blooding quite a few young possibles rather than fall back on 'tried and average'. Is that what you mean @MiketheSnow ?

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                                                                    • MiketheSnow
                                                                      MiketheSnow @Crucial last edited by Duluth

                                                                      @Crucial said in June Internationals:

                                                                      @Catogrande said in June Internationals:

                                                                      @MiketheSnow Same old, same old.

                                                                      A number of players who should be there aren't, too many who are there who should have been put out to pasture ages ago.

                                                                      To be fair Mike with half your senior players away with the Lions together with most of the coaching staff, you'd expect a few old heads/has beens to be in the mix.

                                                                      I don't know all the players but I'd think it would be a great opportunity for blooding quite a few young possibles rather than fall back on 'tried and average'. Is that what you mean @MiketheSnow ?

                                                                      Definitely.

                                                                      For example, we know what Anscombe can and can not do. Shingler is the better player and should have gone. But the WRU have invested so much in Anscombe they can't turn around in the rabbit hole.

                                                                      Dan Evans (Ospreys) and Matthew Morgan (Blues) have been the form full-backs all season. Both omitted 😞

                                                                      The backline should have been

                                                                      15 Matthew Morgan (Blues) / Dan Evans (Ospreys)
                                                                      14 Keelan Giles (Ospreys)
                                                                      13 Tyler Morgan (Newport Gwent Dragons)
                                                                      12 Scott Williams (Captain, Scarlets)
                                                                      11 Steff Evans (Scarlets)
                                                                      10 Sam Davies (Ospreys)
                                                                      9 Gareth Davies (Scarlets)

                                                                      But will most probably end up being

                                                                      15 Sam Davies (Ospreys)
                                                                      14 Keelan Giles (Ospreys)
                                                                      13 Scott Williams (Scarlets)
                                                                      12 Jamie Roberts (captain, Harlequins)
                                                                      11 Alex Cuthbert (Blues)
                                                                      10 Gareth Anscombe (Blues)
                                                                      9 Gareth Davies (Scarlets)

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                                                                      • MiketheSnow
                                                                        MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                        For some reason the numbering is all over the place 😞

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                                                                        • Crucial
                                                                          Crucial @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                          @MiketheSnow said in June Internationals:

                                                                          For some reason the numbering is all over the place 😞

                                                                          No more unusual than the continued persistence in numbering teams 15-10 then 1-8

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                                                                          • booboo
                                                                            booboo @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                            @MiketheSnow said in June Internationals:

                                                                            For some reason the numbering is all over the place 😞

                                                                            Firstly: what @Crucial said
                                                                            Second: the software sees numbers and creates a list

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                                                                            • Duluth
                                                                              Duluth @MiketheSnow last edited by Duluth

                                                                              @MiketheSnow said in June Internationals:

                                                                              For some reason the numbering is all over the place 😞

                                                                              Fixed

                                                                              Dots after a number makes the software think its an ordered list and the numbers will keep incrementing

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                                                                              • Stargazer
                                                                                Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                The Barbarians squad to take on England and Ulster is taking shape.

                                                                                At this stage, the following players have been selected:

                                                                                Backs:
                                                                                Bundee Aki (Connacht), Adam Ashley-Cooper (Bordeaux Begles & Australia), Yann David (Toulouse and France), Will Genia (Stade Francais & Australia), Maxime Medard (Toulouse & France), Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa), Charles Piutau (Ulster & New Zealand).

                                                                                Forwards:
                                                                                Patricio Albacete (Toulouse & Argentina), Steffon Armitage (Pau & England), Thierry Dusautoir (Toulouse & France), Corey Flynn (Glasgow Warriors & New Zealand), Facundo Isa (Lyon & Argentina), Census Johnston (Toulouse & Samoa), Joe Tekori (Toulouse & Samoa), Jeremy Thrush (Gloucester & New Zealand).

                                                                                Obviously, Pienaar and Piutau will only be available for the game v England and will play for Ulster against the Baabaas.

                                                                                The rumour is that they are chasing Dan Carter for the 10 jersey, but no news on that front yet.

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                                                                                  Could they not cobble 23 out of the 41 Lions? And make one of the games BaaBaas v Lions.

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                                                                                    @Stargazer you seem to have highlighted an Irishman by mistake...

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