Harvey Weinstein
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These scumbag Harvey Weinstein stories from the past weekend are amazing, and not simply because some of the biggest news organizations in the world sat on the stories for 15 years for fear of retribution and advertising boycotts. An "open secret" in the industry for three decades, allegedly, yet Hardcore Harv's felines be strangely silent on their #WarOnWomen tweets. Love seeing cognitive dissonance from self-righteous liberal Hollywood A-list hypocrites.
And of course, the silence from allied Democratic Party heavyweight operatives such as the Clintons and the Obamas is even more deafening.
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Ooops, looks like I posted a minute too soon.
And what a thumbs-up headline:
EXCLUSIVE: JUDI DENCH, WHO HAD HARVEY WEINSTEIN 'TATTOO' ON HER BUTT, SAYS SEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTS ARE 'HORRIFYING'
Judi Dench: Harvey Weinstein Reports 'Horrifying'
"I offer my sympathy to those who have suffered, and wholehearted support to those who have spoken out," the Oscar-winning actress says.
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@salacious-crumb said in Religion, Morality and Political Correctness on campus:
Ooops, looks like I posted a minute too soon.
And what a thumbs-up headline:
EXCLUSIVE: JUDI DENCH, WHO HAD HARVEY WEINSTEIN 'TATTOO' ON HER BUTT, SAYS SEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTS ARE 'HORRIFYING'
Judi Dench: Harvey Weinstein Reports 'Horrifying'
"I offer my sympathy to those who have suffered, and wholehearted support to those who have spoken out," the Oscar-winning actress says.
Except she didn't. She jokingly got her make up artist (I think) to write JD loves HW on her arse and showed it to the perv, then had it wiped off. Also that piece says that Weinstein gave her her first starring role in the movie Mrs Brown in 1997. Yeah sure, she was the lead but it sort of ignores the fact that she'd been in much bigger films in the past. Like, oh I don't know. Goldeneye?
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@catogrande said in Religion, Morality and Political Correctness on campus:
@salacious-crumb said in Religion, Morality and Political Correctness on campus:
Ooops, looks like I posted a minute too soon.
And what a thumbs-up headline:
EXCLUSIVE: JUDI DENCH, WHO HAD HARVEY WEINSTEIN 'TATTOO' ON HER BUTT, SAYS SEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTS ARE 'HORRIFYING'
Judi Dench: Harvey Weinstein Reports 'Horrifying'
"I offer my sympathy to those who have suffered, and wholehearted support to those who have spoken out," the Oscar-winning actress says.
Except she didn't. She jokingly got her make up artist (I think) to write JD loves HW on her arse and showed it to the perv, then had it wiped off. Also that piece says that Weinstein gave her her first starring role in the movie Mrs Brown in 1997. Yeah sure, she was the lead but it sort of ignores the fact that she'd been in much bigger films in the past. Like, oh I don't know. Goldeneye?
Unlikely he sexually harassed her though....
The hypocrisy is breathtaking. The same people who lost their shit over the Trump audio recording not only stayed silent about this for decades but are completely mute now.
Pathetic
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Harvey Weinstein:
@catogrande said in Religion, Morality and Political Correctness on campus:
@salacious-crumb said in Religion, Morality and Political Correctness on campus:
Ooops, looks like I posted a minute too soon.
And what a thumbs-up headline:
EXCLUSIVE: JUDI DENCH, WHO HAD HARVEY WEINSTEIN 'TATTOO' ON HER BUTT, SAYS SEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTS ARE 'HORRIFYING'
Judi Dench: Harvey Weinstein Reports 'Horrifying'
"I offer my sympathy to those who have suffered, and wholehearted support to those who have spoken out," the Oscar-winning actress says.
Except she didn't. She jokingly got her make up artist (I think) to write JD loves HW on her arse and showed it to the perv, then had it wiped off. Also that piece says that Weinstein gave her her first starring role in the movie Mrs Brown in 1997. Yeah sure, she was the lead but it sort of ignores the fact that she'd been in much bigger films in the past. Like, oh I don't know. Goldeneye?
Unlikely he sexually harassed her though....
The hypocrisy is breathtaking. The same people who lost their shit over the Trump audio recording not only stayed silent about this for decades but are completely mute now.
Pathetic
Unlikely I would either...
Agree re the hypocrisy. as you may call I don't have much time for the Trump thing and equally so this. I guess though the difference is that Trump is a totally public person now whereas the fat perv was only relevant within his immediate domain. You often find when the influence is narrow but very powerful that fear rules completely. I see your Weinstein and I raise you Saville. There remain many influential people that have remained strangely quiet about dear old Jimmy.
Scum really.
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@catogrande said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Harvey Weinstein:
@catogrande said in Religion, Morality and Political Correctness on campus:
@salacious-crumb said in Religion, Morality and Political Correctness on campus:
Ooops, looks like I posted a minute too soon.
And what a thumbs-up headline:
EXCLUSIVE: JUDI DENCH, WHO HAD HARVEY WEINSTEIN 'TATTOO' ON HER BUTT, SAYS SEXUAL HARASSMENT REPORTS ARE 'HORRIFYING'
Judi Dench: Harvey Weinstein Reports 'Horrifying'
"I offer my sympathy to those who have suffered, and wholehearted support to those who have spoken out," the Oscar-winning actress says.
Except she didn't. She jokingly got her make up artist (I think) to write JD loves HW on her arse and showed it to the perv, then had it wiped off. Also that piece says that Weinstein gave her her first starring role in the movie Mrs Brown in 1997. Yeah sure, she was the lead but it sort of ignores the fact that she'd been in much bigger films in the past. Like, oh I don't know. Goldeneye?
Unlikely he sexually harassed her though....
The hypocrisy is breathtaking. The same people who lost their shit over the Trump audio recording not only stayed silent about this for decades but are completely mute now.
Pathetic
Unlikely I would either...
Agree re the hypocrisy. as you may call I don't have much time for the Trump thing and equally so this. I guess though the difference is that Trump is a totally public person now whereas the fat perv was only relevant within his immediate domain. You often find when the influence is narrow but very powerful that fear rules completely. I see your Weinstein and I raise you Saville. There remain many influential people that have remained strangely quiet about dear old Jimmy.
Scum really.
Not calling you a hypocrite mate, just the Hollywood tossers who care only about the side and never the principle.
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Heard a reporter from Hollywood News on radio today defending the media.
Said for years she has tried to report this story but no one would go on the record because a) Weinstein always paid people off and got a non-disclosure in return and b) fear of being blackballed.
She thinks the differences this time are that Weinstein isn't as powerful as he was a decade ago. He's seen as having lost the golden touch. Plus most importantly the leaked memo which made it easier for N Y Times to say to Ashley Judd "look you're not alone we have corroborating evidence of his behavior". There are apparently strong indicators that the leak was deliberately given to the press possibly even by his brother as Weinstein was now too great a liability.
Once Judd went public the dam burst.
Again, reporter said she and others have tried to publicise Weinstein's abhorrent behavior many times but his literal and metaphorical size and aggression plus millions in hush money had made it impossible.
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@catogrande said in Harvey Weinstein:
http://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-judi-dench-who-has-harvey-weinstein-tattoo-her-butt-says-
Except she didn't.
What else would you expect from a low-brow fakenews tabloid like Newsweek?
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Really have to question the Obama's and/or the people close to them who thought sending their daughter to intern under Harv was a good idea without a background check? That is, if it really was Hollywood's "worst-kept secret," you'd like to believe the DNC might have done a little preliminary digging to see whether this toxic pervert was going to help-or-hurt their brand.
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Sad thing is, with these "casting couch" revelations, it's gonna be real hard for me to watch movies with actresses like Blake Lively, Gretchen Mol, Gwnyth Paltrow etc without seeing Harv's bratwurst and mayonaisse in their mouths, and that's not something I really need to be thinking about!
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I just checked a lot of the promotional items on Goldeneye (posters, dvd, stills, video game, advertising) and confirmed what I remembered, that Dench is neither pictured nor credited as a star. "Starred" as written by Newsweak presumably doesn't mean "support actress." A technicality, just sayin'.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
Really have to question the Obama's and/or the people close to them who thought sending their daughter to intern under Harv was a good idea without a background check? That is, if it really was Hollywood's "worst-kept secret," you'd like to believe the DNC might have done a little preliminary digging to see whether this toxic pervert was going to help-or-hurt their brand.
I'd imagine he picked his targets. And the daughter of the sitting POTUS was not one of them. Anyways he probably didn't spend much time in the office actually working....
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I don't for a second think he'd mash on Barack' baby girl either, unless he was a complete sociopath (not willing to rule out the possibility, power does strange things to sociopaths). I'm more alarmed that somebhody didn't step forward and tell Barack, hey, bro, this dude that raises you money and keeps coming to the White House, he's a real pervert the worst-kept secret in Hollywood, possible Jimmy Savile stuff... you know, politically and socially, you might want to put a barge-pole between your office and a "known" sex deviant, and that should be a pair of barge-poles between the sleazebag and your daughter, irrespective how many awards he wins and dollars he bundles for the Dems. Y'know, common sense.
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Zoe Brock has a blog.
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I felt outside of my body as I assessed my situation and heard myself, a 23 year old girl from New Zealand, reprimand this grown man as if he was a small child.
“This is unacceptable. Put your clothes on you naughty, naughty boy.”
Harvey, contrite, promised to cover himself and leave me alone. I came out of the bathroom and found him sitting on his bed, wearing a bathrobe, crying.
“You don’t like me because I’m fat.” He whimpered.
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Harvey Weinstein and I at The Hotel Du Cap
I was only 23 when I was ‘Harveyed’. It was 1997. I was a street smart kid with a tougher skin than most…
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
I just checked a lot of the promotional items on Goldeneye (posters, dvd, stills, video game, advertising) and confirmed what I remembered, that Dench is neither pictured nor credited as a star. "Starred" as written by Newsweak presumably doesn't mean "support actress." A technicality, just sayin'.
I think we can all accept that most movies have more than two stars i.e. leading man and woman and that as the recipient of 3 BAFTA's and numerous high profile roles before Mrs Brown Dame Judi was hardly an unknown
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In the Commonwealth, certainly. But in the United States...? Don't kid yourself. If she'd been a star her name would have been on the poster.
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@salacious-crumb who gives a flying fuck what the rebel colonies think?
Dench wasn't on any Bond posters I can find so I think that says more about the character "M" than her standing but it's irrelevant in terms of Weinstein's contemptible actions
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OKay, you win. She was a big star and household name in America when Goldeneye hit screens. (If you say so.)
(I can't help but laugh at myself for even having this argument ffs.)
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Drudgereport this minute. Fashion designer Donna Karan slut-shames & blames the women seducin' Harv, and there's that pic again with the filthy pervert's arm around Lorde. Ouch.
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@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
I don't for a second think he'd mash on Barack' baby girl either, unless he was a complete sociopath (not willing to rule out the possibility, power does strange things to sociopaths). I'm more alarmed that somebhody didn't step forward and tell Barack, hey, bro, this dude that raises you money and keeps coming to the White House, he's a real pervert the worst-kept secret in Hollywood, possible Jimmy Savile stuff... you know, politically and socially, you might want to put a barge-pole between your office and a "known" sex deviant, and that should be a pair of barge-poles between the sleazebag and your daughter, irrespective how many awards he wins and dollars he bundles for the Dems. Y'know, common sense.
I have no idea how much people knew about this creep's sexual habits. He hasn't plumbed the Jimmy Saville depths yet but there will be plenty of opportunity for allegatioms of underage sex to emerge. But these situations exist in many environments where there is a massive imbalance in power. Law firms, the clergy, politics, show business, the AFL just to name a few. All of these places allow those at the top huge opportunities to take advantage of people with little apparently discernable consequences
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Rumours were circulating early last week that Weinstein was going to be hit by pieces in the New York Times -and- The New Yorker magazine. NYT dropped their scoop on Thursday; The New Yorker piece landed today - and the women go on record accusing him of rape. They provide an audio tape of Weinstein admitting to assault in a NYPD sting operation, presented for the first time.
From Aggressive Overtures to Sexual Assault: Harvey Weinstein’s Accusers Tell Their Stories
Multiple women share harrowing accounts of sexual assault and harassment by the film executive.
(Obamas and Clintons still deathly silent . . . )
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@rancid-schnitzel Thanks for the apology but not necessary. I didn't take it that you were calling me out.
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@salacious-crumb It's not all about the democrats you know.
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@catogrande said in Harvey Weinstein:
@salacious-crumb It's not all about the democrats you know.
Where did he say it was?
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What I find weird is the Ashley Judd thing. She's heavily involved in the entire "Trump is a sex fiend" movement and has been very vocal about his alleged sexual harassments. Yet she says nothing about Weinstein until she basically has to. That's 20 years after the fact and she even kept on making movies with the guy. How can she slander the shit out of Trump while being mute about the guy who actually did to her what she accuses Trump of? Perhaps she finally realised her career is over?
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@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
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Following up from my earlier supposition (trans. "misogynistic" fantasy), Gretchen Mol says no way, asshole! Schooled me.
Hollywood Reporter: Gretchen Mol Breaks Silence on Harvey Weinstein and Misogynistic Rumors (Guest Column)
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For 10 years or so, I’ve been aware of rumors that I had some kind of transactional relationship with Harvey Weinstein. They seemed to start on a gossip website that made money by peddling ‘blind’ items. A few facts had been taken from my Wikipedia page, were combined with stories about a movie mogul who was known for harassing women, quotes from “reliable sources” were added and a malicious, viral rumor was born.
Over the years, it was gleefully embroidered, becoming increasingly bizarre and baroque — but the salacious, slut-shaming and misogynist message to the fable remained the same: In Hollywood, a young woman must build her career by humiliating herself and sleeping with powerful men.
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People will believe what they want to believe, but I now feel compelled to answer publicly:
No. I did not exchange sexual favors with Harvey Weinstein, or anyone, for advancement in my career. I was never paid any settlement. The truth is that I have never been alone in a room with Harvey Weinstein. The extent of my interactions with him has been a handful of polite hellos at various premieres and award shows. This is in no way a defense of this person, it is merely a statement of fact.
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Gretchen Mol Breaks Silence on Harvey Weinstein and Misogynistic Rumors (Guest Column)
“The shameless behavior of this powerful man found shameless co-conspirators in people hiding behind screen handles, who then tried to push their foulness onto women who are blameless,”…
(I'd like to apologise for any prior inferences and aspertions I might have earlier cast upon Ms. Mol's character and retract unreservedly.)
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@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
Considering his antics were the "worst kept secret in Hollywood" I find that highly unlikely.
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@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
So it is ok for her to keep silent about a sexual.assault.... until there is more than one....ah ok.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
So it is ok for her to keep silent about a sexual.assault.... until there is more than one....ah ok.
Yes, it's her decision about how she treats an incident where someone asks her to give him a massage or watch him shower.
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From today's New York Times update:
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The 24-year-old was wary, but Mr. Weinstein was friendly, professional and supportive, she said, offering her a screen test at Miramax, inviting her to lunch and dinner to talk about films and even giving her and her boyfriend tickets to see “The Producers” on Broadway.
Then his assistant invited her to a meal with Mr. Weinstein at a Manhattan hotel. Ms. Dunning headed to the restaurant, where she was told that Mr. Weinstein’s earlier meeting was running late, so she should head up to his suite.
There was no meeting. Mr. Weinstein was in a bathrobe, behind a coffee table covered with papers.
He told her they were contracts for his next three films, according to Ms. Dunning. But she could only sign them on a condition: She would have to have three-way sex with him.
Ms. Dunning said that she laughed, assuming he was joking, and that Mr. Weinstein grew angry.
“You’ll never make it in this business,” she said he told her. “This is how the business works.”
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@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
So it is ok for her to keep silent about a sexual.assault.... until there is more than one....ah ok.
Yes, it's her decision about how she treats an incident where someone asks her to give him a massage or watch him shower.
Well that is a straw man. Who ever claimed any different?
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Poor Harvey, the pile-on is starting to make me feel some sympathy for the guy.
Just announced at People, his wife (fashion designer) Georgina Chapman is leaving him, filing for divorce.
Harvey Weinstein's Wife Georgina Chapman Is Leaving Him Amid Sexual Harassment Scandal
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Harvey Weinstein's wife Georgina Chapman tells PEOPLE she's splitting from him as the movie mogul stands accused of decades of sexual misconduct
Unmentioned in the People scoop is that there's been rumours for years she tolerated his abusive behaviour with other females as a quid-pro-quo because he made all the Hollywood starlets wear Georgina Chapman gowns on the red carpets at Oscars, Golden Globes, Cannes, and film premieres. Who could ever have imagined she married the guy for influence and power? They look like a perfect couple.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
So it is ok for her to keep silent about a sexual.assault.... until there is more than one....ah ok.
Yes, it's her decision about how she treats an incident where someone asks her to give him a massage or watch him shower.
Well that is a straw man. Who ever claimed any different?
What strawman would that be? Whatever else were you suggesting here?
@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
Poor Harvey, the pile-on is starting to make me feel some sympathy for the guy.
Seriously?
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@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
So it is ok for her to keep silent about a sexual.assault.... until there is more than one....ah ok.
Yes, it's her decision about how she treats an incident where someone asks her to give him a massage or watch him shower.
Well that is a straw man. Who ever claimed any different?
What strawman would that be? Whatever else were you suggesting here?
@salacious-crumb said in Harvey Weinstein:
Poor Harvey, the pile-on is starting to make me feel some sympathy for the guy.
Seriously?
Ok, cut the bullshit. In no way did anyone say that it wasn't her decision to say something or not. Or how she handled. it is just obvious.
She could have come out and said she deserved what she got and so did all the other women. And people have a right to call her on her hypocrisy and stupidity.I am starting to think that yet again you are just trolling. I think it might be time for you to go the way of Frank in the politics forum.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Harvey Weinstein:
@antipodean said in Harvey Weinstein:
@rancid-schnitzel I don't think it's that weird. There's a world of difference in twenty years for someone to realise that an issue didn't just happen to them, but is a pattern of behaviour.
So it is ok for her to keep silent about a sexual.assault.... until there is more than one....ah ok.
Yes, it's her decision about how she treats an incident where someone asks her to give him a massage or watch him shower.
Well that is a straw man. Who ever claimed any different?
What strawman would that be? Whatever else were you suggesting here?
Ok, cut the bullshit. In no way did anyone say that it wasn't her decision to say something or not. Or how she handled. it is just obvious.
She could have come out and said she deserved what she got and so did all the other women. And people have a right to call her on her hypocrisy and stupidity.I am starting to think that yet again you are just trolling.
Holy fuck, the irony.
I will ask you again, please show where anyone at all said she couldn't treat it any way she wanted.
You asked if it was 'ok for her to keep silent about a sexual.assault.... until there is more than one'
I responded by pointing out she wasn't sexually assaulted. She was propositioned. She's on record stipulating her knowledge of any other alleged issues didn't exist until 2015.
You called that a strawman. When asked to explain how it's a straw man argument, you've elected not to answer.
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