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  • NTAN Offline
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    @westcoastie said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    @nta what was the half-time possession count?
    Felt like the AB's had 25% possession second half

    Don't know. Missed those ones but you kicked a lot away, while we dropped a lot. Suspect it was pretty even

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    @nta AB's just not clinical enough, again, missing that leadership the 2015 squad had.

    I still feel like the Wallabies need to find a decent 10. I feel that to be in the top echelon of international teams, if you don't have that then you're going to struggle when it counts.
    When did Foley get so shite at kicking? I thought he was a bit of a dead-eye. 9, 11-15 had a good balance for you guys tonight, bench included.

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    @nepia said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    @akan004 Did DMac do that much wrong tonight? I don't remember any howlers (but I may be wrong)?

    What did DMAC actually add?

    He muffed an early handling chance, he missed a conversion to tie the game, he got overpowered for a loose ball off a lineout shortly after that, he got overpowered for a try (both of these probably cos hes tiny). His field kicking was average.

    He created absolutely nothing for anybody else - he made one small break off a kick return once that I saw - that was it.

    He got ragdolled several times (again coming back to being tiny).

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  • NTAN Offline
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    @westcoastie perhaps. You weren't missing the leadership in Dunedin - I think we just had a few percentage points up front without BBBR there, and with Dempsey instead of Hanigan at 6 our furry was better.

    Foley has had a weird season for kicking. Some nights he could barely miss. Others he can't hit.

    My theory is this: take the first 2 opportunities for 3 points, as long as they're within his range. If he can't get them, change to Beale or Hodge. Let Foley think about playing 10 for a bit, come back to him after the break.

    I would love to see Pommy fans quietly shit themselves and Hodge slams one over from 55 out. 😉

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    @nta And without BB in the backline also, and I think Ben Smith too

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    What fucks me off about this was the fucking MORONIC fucking mistakes we made.

    Time after fucking time after FUCKING time.

    Especially when we got on attack.

    Dumb

    Dumb

    Dumb

    Had the winning of that amd blew it.

    Fuck

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    @westcoastie said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    @nta what was the half-time possession count?
    Felt like the AB's had 25% possession second half

    Source: ESPN

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    @stargazer feels about right I spose... is it odd that I wonder that when you add some of those starts together theres a missing 1 or 2% here or there.
    Like overall territory 52 & 46 = 98%, was the other 2% of the game played in the changing rooms? or a remote atoll somewhere?
    56 + 43 = 99% possession? Did the Ball Boy get 1%

    Theres going to be a minor-party asking for representation soon chuckle chuckle

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    @westcoastie The numbers not always adding up is, I think, due to rounding.

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    @booboo Is the difference in on-field leadership between Richie McCaw & Kieran Read starting to come through?
    Too often, we just do dumb-shit lately.
    Does Kieran just not have the Mana Richie had? hard to imagine TJP or SBW making dumb kicks if Richie was boss.
    Wonder if a few egos are a bit out of check...

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    @stargazer said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    Just reminding everyone. We didn't have Moody, Franks, Retallick, BB, Dagg and BFA (and Jordie). Looking at 2019, things aren't that bad if these players are available, and they keep on developing the newbies (and bringing in more & better players) to iron out the weaknesses.

    But but but ......we would have smoked them if Akira iaoane was playing apparently (despite the fact that he's a lazy piece of shit that hasn't earned his place)

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    Just lacking a bit of cutting edge on attack I thought. Lima is very good, but he doesn't take the line on like BB. The aussies did a good job in shackling our midfield and wings, Sonny played great but we just lacked penetration

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    @sammyc

    Worth looking at a Cane, Todd, Read starting combo, Squire from the bench?

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  • TimT Away
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    @sammyc Massively higher workrate than Squire. Watch the Maori and Blues games against the Lions.

    There's also a guy called Kaino in the squad ... he actually has a presence on defence.

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    At the risk of sounding all English media ... finally, all the off the ball shit the AB's do costs us.

    Barnes awarded two penalties against us at crucial times, both when we were in a middle of a good run, and both of needless, pointless off the ball rubbish. We take a lot of criticism from a lot of corners about the cleanest of non tacklers, past the ruck etc, and some of it is duly deserved. And today, these actions went along way to the Wallabies winning the match.

    Momentum was everything this match - we had it in the first 30 mins, then the Aussies had it the next 30. Then twice when we had it again, we were penalised for needless, stupid, pointless with no upside, off the ball crap.

    I hope this is a learning experience, and turning point.

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    @sammyc said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    @stargazer said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    Just reminding everyone. We didn't have Moody, Franks, Retallick, BB, Dagg and BFA (and Jordie). Looking at 2019, things aren't that bad if these players are available, and they keep on developing the newbies (and bringing in more & better players) to iron out the weaknesses.

    But but but ......we would have smoked them if Akira iaoane was playing apparently (despite the fact that he's a lazy piece of shit that hasn't earned his place)

    Haha lazy piece of shit. Tell us what you really think.

    What did Squire do to earn his place out of interest? Or Fifita?

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    @booboo said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    What fucks me off about this was the fucking MORONIC fucking mistakes we made.

    Time after fucking time after FUCKING time.

    Especially when we got on attack.

    Dumb

    Dumb

    Dumb

    Had the winning of that amd blew it.

    Fuck

    Didn't realise Wales were playing today

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    @majorrage said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    At the risk of sounding all English media ... finally, all the off the ball shit the AB's do costs us.

    Barnes awarded two penalties against us at crucial times, both when we were in a middle of a good run, and both of needless, pointless off the ball rubbish. We take a lot of criticism from a lot of corners about the cleanest of non tacklers, past the ruck etc, and some of it is duly deserved. And today, these actions went along way to the Wallabies winning the match.

    Momentum was everything this match - we had it in the first 30 mins, then the Aussies had it the next 30. Then twice when we had it again, we were penalised for needless, stupid, pointless with no upside, off the ball crap.

    I hope this is a learning experience, and turning point.

    Post of the Day 👏

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @westcoastie said in BLEDISLOE 3:

    @booboo Is the difference in on-field leadership between Richie McCaw & Kieran Read starting to come through?
    Too often, we just do dumb-shit lately.
    Does Kieran just not have the Mana Richie had? hard to imagine TJP or SBW making dumb kicks if Richie was boss.
    Wonder if a few egos are a bit out of check...

    I think you’re overstating it. Plenty of dumb play under Richie’s reign. Remember all the pointless grubber kicks by MacAllister and Weepu....

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    @act-crusader True.

    But at least Luke went out of the team post 2007, and Piri sorted his shit by the 2011 RWC so alls forgiven there..

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