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    Black Caps vs Windies Series

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    • V
      Virgil last edited by Duluth

      Yay summer is here, ahead of a huge test schedule facing the caps is the first test vs the Windies starting tomorrow at the Basin
      Team wise we will be without Watling and it appears Southee too. Not sure who will be picked to bowl at 130 kms and get smacked around while we argue over why he hasn’t been dropped by Hesson. Sounds like it’s between Matt Henry and Lachi Fergusson

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      • MN5
        MN5 last edited by MN5

        Brilliant post. I do love a good cynical yarn about the Black Caps....

        That Windies team looks beyond poor though. Surely we got this comfortably?

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        • Snowy
          Snowy @MN5 last edited by

          @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

          Surely we got this comfortably?

          Ha hahahahahaha. You know damn well they are playing the Black Caps.

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          • MN5
            MN5 @Snowy last edited by MN5

            @snowy said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

            @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

            Surely we got this comfortably?

            Ha hahahahahaha. You know damn well they are playing the Black Caps.

            Valid point but we're pretty good at flogging bad teams at home, getting confident and then getting hammered by ( insert good test team here ) when they tour early in the New year.

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            • Snowy
              Snowy @MN5 last edited by

              @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

              @snowy said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

              @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

              Surely we got this comfortably?

              Ha hahahahahaha. You know damn well they are playing the Black Caps.

              Valid point but we're pretty good at flogging bad teams at home, getting confident and then getting hammered by ( insert good test team here )

              Also a fair call. That's how they do it - build us up just to tear us down. In some ways it is more entertaining than supporting the ABs. Not as rewarding - but definitely more challenging.

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              • MN5
                MN5 @Snowy last edited by

                @snowy said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                @snowy said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                Surely we got this comfortably?

                Ha hahahahahaha. You know damn well they are playing the Black Caps.

                Valid point but we're pretty good at flogging bad teams at home, getting confident and then getting hammered by ( insert good test team here )

                Also a fair call. That's how they do it - build us up just to tear us down. In some ways it is more entertaining than supporting the ABs. Not as rewarding - but definitely more challenging.

                Just been scrolling through the Windies squad. Only Kemar Roach has anything resembling a really good record.

                Darren Bravo would rather player 20/20 and he's their only really good batsman.

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                • mikedogz
                  mikedogz last edited by

                  There are a few guys who have potential that were in the Under 19's team that won.

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                  • Snowy
                    Snowy @MN5 last edited by

                    @mn5 Yeah. I'll get interested in the Windies tomorrow when it starts (and will distract me from doing accounts). A bit like now really. If there is a spike in my Fern posting it is usually because I am avoiding accounts.

                    Windies did get to 451 / 9 against NZA due to this: Hope (110) and Ambris (153) came together at 135 for five with their side at risk of crumbling.

                    We might see a bit of Lockie in the test too: Ferguson's victims were top seven batsmen as he secured five wickets for 67 runs from 18 overs.

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                    • Rapido
                      Rapido last edited by

                      Will be a choice between the specialist 12th man who never actually plays any cricket anymore, who I used to rate very highly, but always looks awfully out of form and rhythm now in his rare appearances. Or an in form young fast bowler in the middle of a great spell of form.

                      I know which one I think the Larsen/Hesson will go for.

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                      • nzzp
                        nzzp @MN5 last edited by

                        @mn5 said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                        Valid point but we're pretty good at flogging bad teams at home, getting confident and then getting hammered by ( insert good test team here ) when they used to tour early in the New year.

                        fixed that for ya

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                        • KiwiPie
                          KiwiPie last edited by

                          Stats to show just how good Kane is (I'm having a Cricinfo sort of a day).

                          From 1 Jan 2015 to the present

                          Top batting averages of players with 10 games or more in the period

                          Smith 70.72
                          Williamson 68.37
                          Voges 61.87
                          Kohli 60.95
                          Pujara 60.83
                          Khawaja 56.75
                          Azhar Ali 55.56
                          Root 54.58
                          Dhawan 52.42
                          Taylor 51.21

                          Using the same criteria - percentage of completed innings (completed means dismissed) in which the player has passed 50.

                          Williamson 57%
                          Smith 54%
                          Root 51%
                          Pujara 49%
                          Rahul 47%
                          Khawaja 46%
                          de Kock 43%
                          Misbah 42%
                          Handscomb 40%
                          Azhar Ali 39%

                          It is outstanding for any batsmen to pass 50 more than 50% of the time.

                          PS Taylor is at 29%

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                          • mimic
                            mimic last edited by

                            New Zealand XI for first Test
                            Kane Williamson (captain), Tom Latham, Jeet Raval, Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, Tom Blundell, Mitchell Santner, Colin de Grandhomme, Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Trent Boult.

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                            • MN5
                              MN5 @mimic last edited by

                              @mimic said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                              New Zealand XI for first Test
                              Kane Williamson (captain), Tom Latham, Jeet Raval, Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, Tom Blundell, Mitchell Santner, Colin de Grandhomme, Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Trent Boult.

                              Standard hit or miss openers, two of our all time best, unproven middle order and a lot depending on Boult.

                              I love summer.

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                              • No Quarter
                                No Quarter last edited by

                                @MN5 our openers are averaging 38 and 44 respectively! World class...

                                In seriousness Jeet is probably a bit limited as a player but Latham is fashioning a decent record, 6 test tons and is only 25 so plenty of time to develop further.

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                                  Rugger Quizzes last edited by

                                  Thought I could 'work' from home tomorrow and watch most of day 1 but can't now as train strike has been cancelled.

                                  That said looking forward to getting to the basin on day 3. Shame there are so few tests this year.

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                                  • dogmeat
                                    dogmeat @Rugger Quizzes last edited by

                                    @rugger-quizzes Don't train drivers like cricket?

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                                    • MN5
                                      MN5 last edited by

                                      She's a typically gorgeous still day in the nation's capital. Perfect for cricket.

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                                      • MajorRage
                                        MajorRage last edited by MajorRage

                                        Live here in Blighty on sky ... sleep is for the weak

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                                        • MN5
                                          MN5 @MajorRage last edited by MN5

                                          @majorrage said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                          Live here in Blighty on sky ... sleep is for the weak

                                          Your commitment is admirable. Without jinxing stuff anyone remember the last time we had a downpour in welly?

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                                          • Hooroo
                                            Hooroo last edited by

                                            @MN5 speaking of which, what's teh forcast for Wellybops

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                                            • Smudge
                                              Smudge @Hooroo last edited by

                                              @hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                              @MN5 speaking of which, what's teh forcast for Wellybops

                                              Has the work IT department blocked Metservice from your Google searches? 😉

                                              Not a cloud in the sky right now down here. Well at least from the 8% of the sky that I can see from my desk.

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                                              • No Quarter
                                                No Quarter last edited by

                                                Won the toss and bowling. Always puts a bit of pressure on the openers to take early wickets but given the greenness of the pitch probably a good decision.

                                                Hoping Henry starts well.

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                                                • MN5
                                                  MN5 @Hooroo last edited by

                                                  @hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                  @MN5 speaking of which, what's teh forcast for Wellybops

                                                  As if you need to ask. Beautiful as always. We even have water restrictions in place!!!

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                                                    Gunner @No Quarter last edited by

                                                    @no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                    Won the toss and bowling.

                                                    Yea ok, ahemmm. Pull the other one.

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                                                    • nzzp
                                                      nzzp @Gunner last edited by

                                                      @gunner said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                      @no-quarter said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                      Won the toss and bowling.

                                                      Yea ok, ahemmm. Pull the other one.

                                                      yeah, I wondered too. Ockers have it right - win toss, bat.

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                                                        Virgil last edited by

                                                        9 tight overs undone within 4 balls by Cdg

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                                                        • KiwiMurph
                                                          KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                          CDG first change bowler - cripes

                                                          Surely this is the sort of series you give someone else a go? - surely there's an up and comer on the first class scene that could be given a crack?

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                                                          • Donsteppa
                                                            Donsteppa last edited by

                                                            Was surprised they didn't run with Ferguson.

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                                                            • V
                                                              Virgil last edited by

                                                              Because winning the toss and bowling is always a good idea..

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                                                              • Chris B.
                                                                Chris B. @Donsteppa last edited by

                                                                @donsteppa I wasn't - but, they should have picked him instead of de Grandhomme. We've got someone who can bowl 150 kph, but why choose him when you can have CDGH dribble in at 125 kph?

                                                                Pakistanis really did us no favours giving Colin six wickets in his first innings.

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                                                                • MajorRage
                                                                  MajorRage last edited by

                                                                  When you win the toss you always bat. Unless the wickets green, it's overcast and all the conditions are great for bowling. In which case you think about it then bat.

                                                                  Steve Waugh, I think ...

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                                                                  • Hooroo
                                                                    Hooroo @MajorRage last edited by

                                                                    @majorrage said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                                    When you win the toss you always bat. Unless the wickets green, it's overcast and all the conditions are great for bowling. In which case you think about it then bat.

                                                                    Steve Waugh, I think ...

                                                                    I though it was one of the Marsh brothers or maybe Border but it was before Steve Waugh.

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                                                                    • Hooroo
                                                                      Hooroo last edited by Hooroo

                                                                      A quick google shows it W G Grace. But I am sceptical

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                                                                      • MajorRage
                                                                        MajorRage @Hooroo last edited by MajorRage

                                                                        @hooroo probably ... I credit Steve Waugh with everything

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                                                                        • Hooroo
                                                                          Hooroo @MajorRage last edited by

                                                                          @majorrage said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                                          @hooroo probably ... I credit Steve Waugh with everything

                                                                          He would have just made it cooler....

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                                                                          • MajorRage
                                                                            MajorRage last edited by

                                                                            Looks like James Blunt in the crowd

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                                                                            • mariner4life
                                                                              mariner4life @MajorRage last edited by

                                                                              @majorrage this

                                                                              CdG is fucking shit, and it's an embarrassment he's bowling first change. And if he's first change, why the fuck do you bowl first??

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                                                                              • MajorRage
                                                                                MajorRage @mariner4life last edited by

                                                                                @mariner4life dunno ... but it's 11:10pm and I'm bored shitless and debating chucking it in.

                                                                                Forgot how boring test cricket is when it's your only focus

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                                                                                • MN5
                                                                                  MN5 @Hooroo last edited by

                                                                                  @hooroo said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                                                  A quick google shows it W G Grace. But I am sceptical

                                                                                  He was so good that even when he got bowled out he stayed in because 'people had come to watch him bat'

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                                                                                  • MN5
                                                                                    MN5 @MajorRage last edited by

                                                                                    @majorrage said in Black Caps vs Windies 1st Test:

                                                                                    Looks like James Blunt in the crowd

                                                                                    The way the games going so far perhaps he'd be more entertaining?

                                                                                    I hate James Blunt.

                                                                                    Not as much as Ed Sheeran but.

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